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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Daily reminder that more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters voted for Obama in 2008.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

25% percent of Hillary supporters switched parties, coining the slogan "party unity my ass"

A decade later they would spend 2 election cycles blaming people who didn't support her in spite of her doing everything g she could to pass them off.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The most infuriating thing about electorism obsessed libs shame tactics, is that they somehow imagine that its all going to come down to one vote. Which has not only never happened, but is even more ludicrous in the massively anti-democratic presidential elections

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

any election that comes down to a margin anywhere near that gets decided by lawyers

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

or by Brooks Brothers customers

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Gets decoded by lawyers, republicans scream "fuck you, no" and them dems go "aw shucks" and give up

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is that they somehow imagine that its all going to come down to one vote

hey what happened last time it actually did come down to a handful of votes? dubya-paint

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I often hear them say "if you don't vote for our guy, it's a vote for the other guy!". It's like a child's approach to politics. If I don't fucking vote, it's literally just that. Not a vote.

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

tbf it’s less about your individual vote and more about the entire bloc of leftists who won’t vote for Biden. e.g. if Biden loses by 1000 votes and there were 2000 leftists who refused to vote, it’s obviously their fault.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's bidens fault since those 2000 people have explicitly outlined what it takes to get their vote for decades and dems electoral strategy has been "go fuck yourself and if you dont like that it's your fault we lost"

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how this backs up the liberal assumption that your vote is somehow worth two votes because not voting also somehow gave an extra vote to the Republican.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voting Democrat: 1 vote for the Democrats

Voting Republican: 2 votes for the Republicans

Not voting: Somehow 4 votes for the Republicans

Not being a registered voter: 20 votes for the republicans

Not voting for the Democrats because you criticize them from the left: 8,000 votes for the Republicans

it's just electoral science :nate-silver:

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Never voting: not even permitted to comment, by rules of lib civility

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[–] AssaultRifle15@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, you think the bombardment of Gaza is bad? What if it was happening under a president that handled the situation exactly the same but didn't kind-of-sort-of pretend to feel bad about it? Does that sound like the kind of world you want to live in?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only difference is that if Trump were president every elected Democrat would have "from the river to the sea" in their bio.

But since it's a dem president they just tell those same protestors to shut up because they're hurting their electoral chances.

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[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having the red guy still win when the blue guy gets more votes would make it more accurate to american "democracy"

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you haven't already moved to Wisconsin to vote in 2024 you don't really care about the state of American democracy

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You simply cannot fathom the magnificent wisdom and vision of the Founding Fathers smuglord amerikkka-clap

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Look the person in one of the Dakotas who doesn't think climate change is real because he slid into a ditch when he tried to drive drunk last week because there was an icy spot, their vote counts for several times as much as any climate scientist with a degree who lives in a blue state.

If you think there's something wrong with this you just don't understand how politics works.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just wanna say how wild it is that in 2000 bush lost the popular vote by 0.5% and won the electoral college by 5, a small enough margin that I remember people at the time saying that it was extremely unlikely and would probably never happen again, and then in 2016 Trump lost the popular vote by 2% and won the electoral college by 77, an absolutely huge amount.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This also completely ignores the fact that it just doesn’t fucking matter for 99% of people. nothing ever gets better. “Nothing fundamentally will change.”

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really don't understand why there isn't stronger support for the president who explicitly told young voters "nothing will fundamentally damentally change" and "I have no sympathy for problems faced by young people"

Clearly it's because they don't understand politics is voting for people who constantly tell you to go fuck yourself because otherwise they won't make as much in consulting fees.

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[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

The Republican should still win even if smugman votes democrat because the electoral college means his state doesn't matter

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This discourse is fucking unbearable. Thinking that voting is "what everything comes down to" in politics and therefore harassing the far left for not wanting to vote for genocide joe is just wrong and cringe. At the same time insisting on not voting is predicated on that action mattering at all in the first place. Either that it's somehow a way of moving the democrats to the left or that your mortal soul will be tarnished for the sin of voting for a lesser evil.

I know that's very edgy aloof take but I'd rather not be wasting any bandwidth even thinking about national electoralism.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not edgy at all, you are correct. Electoralism in the US takes the wind out of progressive movements. It replaces direct action with campaigning and “letting the system work” until any progressive momentum has dissipated.

Leftists should literally stop talking about elections as if they aren’t happening. Vote for whoever you want, it does not matter. I want to know what you (figurative “you”) are doing in real terms of organizing and direct action, not who you voted for to ostensibly do those things on your behalf. I don’t say this from a moral high ground btw, I really should do more myself, but I at least understand the reality of my laziness and I’m not going to be phone banking or whatever the fuck next November.

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[–] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GOOD meme, now do a 3rd iteration with the commie guy voting in the 2022 Donbass referendums

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I saw the meme too and I think the best way you can change it is making the blue guy win, you still get fascism (so same as your post) but then in 4 years you get supercharged fascism because the Chuds were mad the blue guy wasn't fascist enough, and no one did absolutely anything to oppose the blue guy out of fear red guy wins.

[–] Alch_Fox@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't wait to tell all the libs next year that I won't vote so I can watch them get visibly angry with me.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Tell them they have to vote for Jill stein because it's her turn.

And then really put your foot down and demand why that isn't a viable reason anymore.

My other favorite is when they say if you aren't voting for Biden you're voting for Trump.

Tell them you also aren't voting for Trump, which means you are voting for Biden (unless that thing they just said was horseshit) so effectively you're voting twice without breaking any rules, and ask them why they're only exercising half of their right to vote compared to you.

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[–] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

>"Hmm Today I will donate all but $1 of my net worth to the Biden-Harris 2024 Campaign"

>"Biden loses by a single vote(which been could've been captured if they had $1 more to spend on an advertisement), causing vast amounts of harm which easily exceed the value of $1"

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

this meme is too french macron

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

manhattan

it is 2016, people are arguing about voting

it is 2020, people are arguing about voting

it is 2024, people are arguing about voting

shit I'm not even going to vote labour at the next election can't imagine voting democrat

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