Gnome is getting prettier by the day, I'm worried that, one day, it'll make me cheat on KDE Plasma.
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I recently moved to Fedora and tried gnome first. Absolutely no thanks. I just can't get down with it, and I had numerous issues in just a few days. KDE spin has been pretty painless.
I have the complete opposite experience. I've never had a good fedora kde install. It always had issues out of nowhere. I've hopped so much until I settled on endeavourOS for over a year now. Beautiful distro
Kinda weird how our experiences can be different like that. Hardware differences maybe?
Could be. To be fair to fedora kde, I've only tried it on a laptop that has hybrid graphics Intel/Nvidia. I now have a desktop PC that is all AMD, but I built it with EndeavourOS and never anything else.
I kind of have the opposite experience.
I use Plasma for a bit but instability, odd bugs, or visual inconsistency just becomes too much for me.
Gnome was a pain for a couple of weeks when I kept trying to use it like a Windows PC, but once the Gnome workflow "clicked" it just made so much more sense than the Win95 UX paradigm.
And it's particularly annoying when kwin crashes, because it takes everything else down with it (that's getting fixed in Plasma 6 though!) For me that's an absolute show-stopper. I don't want to lose hours of work across multiple programs because something caused kwin to crash.
5.27 is better to a ridiculous degree compared to how Plasma 4 and early Plasma 5 was, though. KDE is doing a lot of work to put the meme of their software being a buggy mess to bed.
If you don't mind me asking, was it because of the vanilla look, the customization being based on extensions (which may or may be updated for a while when a new version releases--if at all), or was it the Gnome philosophy of "One Window per workspace"?
Just curious really, I'm more of an XFCE and KDE user myself, and i can see the appeal of Gnome (and I'm NGL, it looks nice IMHO), but yeah...not a big fan of extensions breaking every version update and the "throw unused Windows in a new workspace" thing
I don't mind the workspaces idea, but I'm just so used to a windows-like philosophy that I just can't adjust easy.
If I had one monitor, maybe gnome would be better. Workspaces could organize myself better. But I have 3, and almost never use other workspaces in KDE. And my mint XFCE laptop isn't a big work machine so it doesn't matter much.
Also I had technical issues on gnome that didn't happen on KDE.
My first distro was pop, and their version of gnome I do like. But I'm not willing to customize it enough to suit myself. I'm more of a "stock experience with small mods" kinda dude. I do enjoy Unix porn but don't have desire to do it myself. That's kinda why I'm not a massive fan of xfce. The default layout is really bad.
Ditto. I've just never found the use for workspaces myself (like, i understand why they're there but they never really worked for me). I tried them, didn't like the flow of it, so i just ignored them (and Gnome for the most part, save Pop_OS, but I've a love/hate relationship with it cuz it's always caused me problems when i try it out. Hopefully the Cosmic Desktop they're making will run better on my systems) in favor of the windows philosophy myself
Agreed on Vanilla/stock XFCE being rough (and i love XFCE), and vanilla Gnome being divisive, but i'm the opposite of you and love to tinker with my stuff--even KDE, which lools good OOTB i can't just leave it alone lol
I only use one workspace and cycle through the programs with super+tab. IMO managing window placement is a waste of time
Honestly same. I haven’t looked at GNOME in a while, there’s some really good improvements in GNOME 45
I mean, can't you just make KDE plasma have the Gnome look, or...basically any look you want?
I can, but it's not the same.
I kinda getcha. Design-wise, you could get a very close copy (but I don't think 1:1. Never tried it tbf), but if we take the workflow into account, yeah it won't be 100% the same (also, QT apps can be a turnoff depending on the person)
Yeah, idk what it is but qt apps just aren't for me
I updated from Fedora 38 yesterday, and my Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 is working even better than before. The tool for controlling the discreet graphics card is working flawlessly now, unlike before. I would strongly recommend upgrading.
Wait what tool are you talking about?
I'm talking about asusctl, supergfxclt, and rog-control-center which is a GUI front end for the previous two items. You can find lots of info and guides on it here.
I actually installed 39 fresh on a asus gaming laptop and while before I had issues with multiple drivers not working correctly, this time it was incredibly painless and I haven't has any issues with it.
I bought a System76 Darter a few months ago, it had problems with the screen brightness controls and external displays on Pop_OS. Installing 39 has been a breeze with everythibg just working so far.
Basically everything here is for GNOME, does the KDE spin have any changes to that?
Nope, nothing for us KDE users. :'(
To be fair, fedora 38 is already on the latest version of KDE Plasma unlike with gnome. I'm sure once we get Plasma 6 we'll see the fedora spin support it not long after.
Well isn't Gnome the default and therefore, more likely to be Fedoras focus?
Yes but that is irrelevant to their question
I dont like how gnome doesn't make buttons look like buttons. It's just text that you hope is clickable.