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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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[–] czech@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, In n Out serves a better burger, for less money, paying their workers $19+/hr.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, buuut in-n-out is also crazy religious so don't put them on too high a pedestal

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yea didn't they ban employees from wearing masks or something

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

"My preferred megacorp is superior to your preferred megacorp!"

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is what being addicted to ever-growing profit looks like. They could still make mountains of profit with the new minimum wage, but they can't make as much profit as they did before.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

If they aren't increasing their profits every year endlessly, they'll have to stop using that one clipart of the arrow line going up on a graph in their presentations.

They sacked the guy that knew how to change the image years ago and they're in too deep now to stop

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Wall Street is cancer.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, you know, make as much profit by the executives taking a pay cut.

[–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

McDonald's has 200,000 employees, and another 2 million that work for McDonald's franchises. Thats 2,200,000 for every 100 million you took from the executives, you could give every employee a $45 bonus.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

And if they took the money they use in stock buybacks and used that for salary, what would it be?

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Stock buybacks used to be illegal market manipulation.

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[–] nature_man@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The prices were always gonna be raised, the wage increase is just an easy excuse, if the wage increase is reversed the prices will 100% still be raised and will almost definitely stay there.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. Corporations love to blame labor.

[–] nature_man@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Its not just labor they like to blame. I remember my local McDonald's raised prices by around 10 cents across the board without giving a reason even though they had gotten a tax cut that year, next year the tax was raised to its previous value and they raised prices again, this time citing the "tax increase". Corps will ALWAYS find a way to raise prices and blame it on something other than greed.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox business coming through with a piece to say "we told you so" and "higher wages just mean higher prices."

Fuck Fox.

[–] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago
[–] 9715698@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would have anyway. Prices don't stay the same and they certainly don't go down.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They won’t lower prices until people stop buying. And most Americans will happily spend themselves into the poorhouse in the name of convenience, and then blame the government for it, so…

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 year ago

This is a misleading title.

They hike the menu price to make more money using the minimum wage as an excuse.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let them price themselves out of business then. Someone will come along and make an affordable burger.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The free market will fix it" seldom works, which is why it's still pushed as a solution.

Could this hypothetical someone make a more affordable burger ethically, or would they also have to fuck over their employees and suppliers?

Usually, the answer is "no". Businesses either use all the same sleazy, "race to the bottom" techniques or they go out of business because they offered a more expensive product to people without the luxury of being able to spend more.

But of course if you start paying people more, the billionaires will just fuck them out of that too. They want every dollar you have and they know people will spend every dollar they have to avoid being homeless or hungry.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ok I’m fine with no fast food. Win-win. Have a good day.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Large Fast Food Chains: We made record profits, again!

Also Large Fast Food Chains: Wait! If we are required to actually pay our staff, how will I, Mr. CEO the Douchebag, afford my 16th yacht? How will I be able to send my children to the finest schools in the world? How will I be able to afford to eat if my workers aren't suffering? Won't anyone think of the 1% and our problems?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok. Hike the prices and see how sales go.

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[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Like they haven't raised prices 4 times already this year.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if this will cause the Big Mac to shrink any more than it already has.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It'll just be a mist now. One squirt for $4.89.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Told you Libruls! The Big Mac was still $0.99 before this law was signed because companies NEVER raise prices unless they have to raise wages!

[–] iBaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The GOP will just blame it on Biden and all Trump’s cult followers will believe it.

[–] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It literally doesn't matter, fox. If it's so bad, why hasn't McD's up and left the state? Why haven't people stopped buying it? All the blather in the world isn't bringing California down so go eat shit.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should also have to pay employment taxes on the automated ordering machines.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

This is a great idea. Yes, automate things, but provide for the workers accordingly.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And people will keep buying. Complain all y'all want, but as long as people keep spending the prices will keep going up. Always.

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[–] Thrawne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife and i joke about when we will have mcdonalds money now. Just nuts what a FF joint will charge for the simplest food.

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[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They had $3.5 billion in cash at the end of the last quarter and reported net income of over $2.3 billion.

They're just assholes.

[–] lieuwestra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the free market don't you know? You could start your own business and undercut them on price.

/s

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[–] rasputin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Watch people wait in line to buy a $5 dollar hash brown. Meanwhile, In and Out still good value if you have a non-ridiculously-busy location near you.

Not an invitation to hear why you like a $18 burger better because the peanuts are free. Get real, I'm not an elephant.

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