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An attempted carjacking Saturday night left a 13-year-old dead after a security officer shot him; another boy, 12, is in custody

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[–] Hillock@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of people seem to mistake carjacking for car theft. Especially mentioning that the person who shot the 13 year old was a security officer gives a wrong impression on what happened.

Carjacking is when the robber(s) take control of a car with a person inside the car. This is what happened here, with the security guard being inside the car. Under these circumstances it's perfectly reasonable to consider shooting the robbers and it's unreasonable to expect the security guard being able to identify the robber as a 13-year old harmless child. There is significant plausible risk to the person inside the car to warrent lethal force during self-defense.

Car theft is stealing an empty car. Shooting someone would be entirely unreasonable during a car theft.

The article doesn't mention wether the car had window tint and the two kids where unaware of the person inside or if they intentionally tried to rob the person. That information might change what can be considered reasonable response.

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[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Imagine how fucked and shitty your life has to be, to be a 12 or 13 year old trying to carjack people.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Not bad at all. Rich kids do horrific shit all the time. Like rape people, drive drunk and kill people, etc etc forever. This is just some kid who played gta, had some mental issues, went out and did shit, then didn’t have rich immoral parents to pay people off and bury it.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I didn't suggest rich kids were immune?

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[–] danjr@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

Being rich and having a fucked up and shitty life aren't mutually exclusive.

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[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The article links to another article and identified it with the boy who was killed. He went on a one night crime spree brandishing a gun and carjacking two cars and assaulting another in a failed carjacking. It's a crazy world.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not normal behavior, it's just sad. Society is failing

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's because gun stores in America sell nukes to fetuses without a background check because capitalism is bad.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's worth noting that DC largely had its gun problem under control until the supreme Court told them they weren't allowed to enforce effective gun violence prevention laws.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We did some pretty fucked up things when I was a teenager and while our lives did suck, the risky choices and crime were from being young and stupid, not poverty.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having nothing to lose is a hell of a thing

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[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine how many people have shitty lives and don't carjack people at 12.

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[–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Some shitty 12 and 13 year old kids have great childhoods and are just shitty.

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[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rumour has it that she called him by his full name -- middle name and all.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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