There are no centrists when one side is fascism.

I do listen to "both" sides! That's exactly why I'm a leftist!

I don't get why centrists think that you have to be "centrist" to listen to both sides, or why doing so makes you a centrist.

I have family members who refer to me as Cassandra because I regularly spout "inane nonsense" about the future which then inevitably becomes true.

I don't have a gift or a crystal ball. I have two eyes and (sadly) a working brain and the werewithal to study history and put one and one together.

We aren't geniuses by any stretch of imagination. It's just extremely sad and painful to see almost everyone else keep going with the (just) bearable lies vs the distinctively unbearable truth.

"Surely we can find some common ground between the Final Solution and the status quo?" —centrists

• * Boasts about listening to both sides of the argument *
• * Doesn't even bother to read and understand the Xweet they are replying to *

I'm a leftist precisely because I started paying more attention and listening to both sides.

I was a centrist before I started doing that.

Past week, been seeing a lot of anti liberal stuff on lemmy. So, you've got people from the outside trying to destabilize the u.s. saying, both sides are the same, democrats are just as bad as Republicans. This creates a scenario that created Trump becoming president in the 1st place. It's done on purpose.

Now, I understand that democrats, liberals aren't perfect. But we have one side trying to set up detention camps, threatening to kill political rivals, consumed with hate. Other side trying at least to be better people.

I'm asking honestly, I would like to learn. Why is the both sides mindset becoming so prevalent?

Literally arguing for a middle ground between correct and incorrect because they reflexively have to make themselves look like the reasonable center whenever the left/right dynamic comes up on the internet.

No thought into the response it's just Pavlovian centrist drooling.

Theory: they know. They know we're in trouble, that we need to take action, that we can fix the problems. They know that they're wrong and that they're making things worse, but they don't care about being right or making the word better, they only care about winning. To change is to admit defeat and, therefore, lose, so the only way to win is to make sure that your opponents lose too.

Looking through all the comments in this topic, it's sad to see that at this point we're arguing about defining labels, instead of solving problems.

I love an opportunity to bag on ‘centrism’. It is often used as a cover for political ignorance. After all, would a non-illiterate claim both sides are the same? It only takes a few minutes to find some of the million ways they are not the same.

Hey leftists how about you stick your head in the sand and live in blissful ignorance like us centrists do. Meanwhile our asses are sticking up and we get ass raped by capitalism. But because we “listen” to “both” sides and make up our own mind we decided to actually enjoy it.

"Why don't you listen to both sides of the argument and make your own opinions and arguments based on that?"

Bitch, why do you think I'm a fucking leftist???

The enlightened centrist here comes across as a Republican too embarrassed to admit it -- it seems to be a core thought in conservatism that anyone who isn't conservative just hasn't formed an independent opinion, and if they did that, they'd be conservative.

Both sidesism is so stupid.

"Oh let me hear the fascist nazi's side that's trying to kill trans people as a scapegoat! I am so enlightened and balanced to be hearing this side too!"

One of the worst things we liberals did, including me is not fighting this Republican rot at the start with the ferocity it deserved.

I remember during the Bush years, while republicans were infesting every level of government and calling liberals demons and Unamerican and enemies... We chuckled at them and laughed along Jon Steward how silly these republicans were, while sitting at home complacent. All our leaders kept spouting bipartisanship as the ultimate goal... Meanwhile Republican talkshow hosts were calling Democrats America's #1 enemy...

We didn't sense the danger and the massive damage their propaganda was doing to the next generation and to every level of government.

Now we've arrived at Trump... And fighting back now is infinitely harder.

It reminds me of climate change.... We saw the problems early, yet did nothing and now that we have to do something it's so much more painful and some of it likely unfixable.