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I want my cake back (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works to c/comics@lemmy.ml

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[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what this comic is trying to say but it’s very dumb and not at all relevant to the discussion about guns in the US.

[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Each piece of the cake is an infringement. The second amendment says shall not be infringed. I want all my cake back.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again I get what it’s trying to say but that’s a false equivalency. No one has ever come to take your guns, not once. You know how I know, because they haven't come for mine either. Get out of here with this stupid propaganda, get over yourself, advocate for proper gun education and registration. If you keep playing the all or nothing game, don’t be surprised when we end up with nothing.

[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Registration always leads to confiscation. Just look at Australia. No registration, but bring back shooting clubs in school.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I remember when I registered my car and then the government came and took it from me….

[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cars are not the same as guns. We don't have as many people calling to ban them and they're not codified in our founding documents.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah cars have more uses than gun. Guns are a tool with one function, to kill. We infringe on people’s right to free speech when it is potentially harmful so I don’t get why guns get some mythical status.

** Freedom of speech does not include the right:

To incite imminent lawless action. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969). To make or distribute obscene materials. Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957). To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest. United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968). To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration. Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988). Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event. Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986). Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event. Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).

Source: https://www.uscourts.gov **

[+] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are pretty shit decisions curtailing freedom of speech.

And killing is a part of the human condition. Some people are crazy and have zero regard for human life. I'd rather be able to defend myself with a gun than a knife, or not at all like in a lot of countries these days.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of people go their entire lives with out killing anyone so I don’t know how you can say that it’s just the “human condition”. Some people are crazy and you and I should have the right to defend yourself with a gun if your life is in danger but the comic doesn’t say any of that, it compares toothless gun laws to taking a cake.

You’re making a false equivalency and a slippery slope argument those are fallacies you absolute door knob. (That’s a fallacy by me, ad hominem)

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And people go their entire lives without getting cancer. Doesn't mean it's not a fact of life.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Another false equivalency. I’m happy to have a debate about guns, I don’t know what cancer has to do with any of this.

[–] JohnnyH842@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is shooting up schools and bowling alleys with cake.

[–] arkholt@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

It's a better analogy than you realize. Cake is generally unhealthy and the less of it you have the better off you are

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That kind of posts, with a profile showing off bans for racism.

You must be a very nice person.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago

The mods can ban for whatever reason they want doesn't make it true.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago

Ha. Had to look that one up. That was a mod being racist. I was calling out the "children" gun deaths statistic and how it includes gang violence and I was thinking up to 17 year olds, but it's even worse and includes up to 19. They assumed by gangs I meant blacks I guess. That's a pretty racist assumption by the mod since gangs come in all colors of shit people. White, brown, asian, black. They're all shit for their association, not their race.