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[–] Xbeam@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Really bad take. All stories borrow elements from other stories but this took it to a rediculous level.

Saying that Star Wars stole from Dune because both Paul and Luke are names that appear in the Bible or because they both used electric binoculars is nuts. And that's just a couple examples.

[–] DuncanIdaho@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Lucas himself said he took elements of Dune and incorporated it. Everyone is forgetting Kurosawa too.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we talk about how most people don't read the rest of the books after Dune and come away thinking Paul is some kind of messiah figure? That part always gets me.

[–] stillwater@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

They don't even need the rest of the books to figure it out, the first book already makes it clear.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Plus Dune isn't like... The OG science fiction.

Herbert borrowed ideas from Asimov/Heinlein constantly, his concepts of humans achieving mental powers were in short stories written decades earlier. "project nightmare" by RAH for example includes ESP (extra sensory perception) operators who are able to do things such as remote viewing and suppression/detonation of nuclear weapons.

All stories borrow, even if the similarities are actually good and not just crap like "well they both have sand planets."

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Star Wars stole everything from Flash Gordon too

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And Jack Kirby. Even, somehow, Hamill's motorcycle scars.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Begun, the Nerd War has....

[–] Babalugats@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dune, star wars, superman all stole from John carter. So did Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and loads of others. Dune seems to always get the credit though.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

John Carter stole The Odyssey, which stole from Gilgamesh, who stole from Enheduanna, who stole from the neolithic artists of Sayburç, who stole from the paleolithic cave artists of Cáceres, who were alive around 75,000 years ago, or about 240,000 years after modern humans first evolved. They probably stole from someone in those 240,000 years.

It gets tiring, but if it's an interesting story it does not matter.

I'm not watching this just for death sticks are death sticks in there