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I suspect a lot of people have difficulty recognizing that what they believe about the world may not be representative of how the world actually behaves. I certainly do, frequently.

Like with politics, people think they need to go vote and march and stuff to effect change, but if you're willing to accept the idea that there are limits to your ability to perceive the world and your perceptions are misleading, you can pretty reliably go and see that isn't true.

You can also decipher deeper realities like you can basically put whatever you want on flat bread, or that you dadskf;'akse'wfaegqrwt;'lj'a fuck my brain. I'm asd I'm not sure what I was trying to say.

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I have a security background and it's largely all theater. Locks are just to keep out people who believe in them. All those badge swipes and things are about tracking access, not securing things. Matter of fact, most mag locks and electronic doors, by law, have to fail open for safety.

Learn to hack, learn to quadcopter.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Learn to hack

And let's be honest here, even Fort Knox is only ever as secure as the people who operate it.

Generally speaking, an operation is only as secure as the people who function within it and these people tend to be the most vulnerable points in a chain of security.

What I'm trying to say here is that you don't have to be a good hacker to be a good penetration tester and one of the most fruitful areas for "hacking" is always going to be social engineering.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Calling people up and just asking for their passwords is a time honored tradition. stalin-approval

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A little while ago our company wanted to get rid off local administrator rights, but as developers we kind of need those (like installing the software we develope and other unimportant things), so they installed some crappy software that wraps the user access control and I guess gives them more control over what can be run

It breaks every couple of weeks, but luckily you can use that same software to disable and bypass it by running the control panel as admin

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol everyone here getting it while everyone on Reddit was like "Oh you cut a hole in the wall you're not so smart I could cut a hole in the wall, too!"

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Nothing is possible until someone realises a particular possibility and then, after that point, not only does it become a possibility for everyone else but it seems as though it was always completely obvious.

I'm not sure if there's a name for this particular phenomenon but I like to think of it in terms of naive responses to contemporary art or, in short, Contemporary Art Syndrome; when people encounter contemporary art they tend to have the reaction "But I could have made that!" and the obvious response to this is "Yeah, but did you?"

(Putting aside the fact that there's actually [apparently] a high degree of technical skill required for, say, a Barnett Newman painting for argument's sake.)

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing is possible until someone realises a particular possibility and then, after that point, not only does it become a possibility for everyone else but it seems as though it was always completely obvious.

Sites on the net claim the physicist Ernest Rutherford said the following but Wikiquote says it's unsourced.

All of physics is either impossible or trivial. It is impossible until you understand it, and then it becomes trivial.

[–] berrytopylus@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think that way about evolution sometimes. It's blitheringly obvious when you consider the two points

  1. There is a difference between parent and offspring and yet they also inherit traits
  2. Differences add up

Both are easily observable in the natural world. The first one can be seen with babies "oh you have your mother's eyes" while also the baby not literally being the mom. The second one is used by walking where we cross a large distance one step at a time.

And all you need is those two principles to come to the conclusion that the small yet inheritable differences between offspring will add up over a long period of time. The question to be asked isn't if it will happen but rather just what traits it happens to.

And yet, it took humanity (and for many people still they refuse) millennial to grasp it. I'm looking at the process as so simple only from the lens of someone born after it was figured out.

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hello, Lockpicking Lawyer here, in this episode I will be making my wife very angry...

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fucking hell, it's real :stalin-stressed:

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All of the money that the ruling class has is belief-based power. If their security details and handlers collectively decided that the ruling class no longer had power and that their money was meaningless, they would crumble like dry leaves. oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"do you feel in charge?"

"I've paid you a small fortune."

"and this gives you... power over me?"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But that's the bad guy because he went too far and wanted to improve society somewhat and a nuke was crammed in along with a desecration of American football to make sure his evil status was confirmed. Nolan is very nonpolitical and an auteur mystery wrapped in an enigma.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

I'm reminded of the walmart storefronts that look like brick or stone but are really just veneers over extremely regular-ass walls

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Lol imagine reading any of this living in a real country that doesn't allow new construction to be made out of wet toilet paper, termite shit and the bounced alimony checks made out to strippers under a fake name.

You use 'drywall knife'

'Concrete blocks and rebar with injectable insulation' is confused

Try again?

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

He recognized the contradictions in the system. That’s how it be.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

honey, wet toilet paper isn't the same as cardboard with powdered chalk glued to it

the latter is way more expensive

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[–] Parenti_stan46@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Those old plaster walls were something else though. I rented a house from the 1920s and you couldn't even get a nail into those walls.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Sam Elliott voice: we used to make things in this country. Time was, a wall, was allowed to be a wall. If Kyle lost his CoD: MW II match, or mom forgot to get more Monster Energy, guess what? Broken hand, wall's fine.

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Practicing decontextualization like this is great practice for inventing new praxis. A lot of folks learn the patterns and skills of organizing. Don't get me wrong, they're great. But it's great to be willing to do something a bit different when opportunity knocks.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

We have to be able to adapt to a changing world. Marshall McLuhan saw our current problem over 50 years ago. Although his takeaway was more on the techno utopia side of things. He didn't account for people using global communication for propaganda, which is weird because he lived through enough war and technology leaps, he should have realized that killing people is the father of invention.

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PolPotPie@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

reminds me of that time that al qaeda operatives were using gmail Drafts to pass messages back and forth (all using the same login) and because they never SENT an email, they never set off any keyword-detector alarms.

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's ingenious. I assume the Feds forced them to close that loophole?

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[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Locks are just there to dissuade opportunistic thieves. If you're determined enough all it takes to get into a place is a sturdy crowbar and some elbow grease.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Which is one reason I don't lock my car. I also don't keep anything of value in it. I'd rather come out to a ransacked car than a broken window.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf there are people who just go around checking for unlocked doors. Maybe it depends on the neighborhood which is more of an issue.

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[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

also good general advice for pre-apocalyptic scavenging.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

gonna take a drywall saw to a congressional baseball game fedposting

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then the wall's made of brick and you're shit out of luck. Or it's time to go in through the metaphorical ceiling and blow the roof off of the world and how it perceives itself. society

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

zizek they lack the ability to articulate their lack of freedom and so on and so on

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago
[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or that you dadskf;'akse'wfaegqrwt;'lj'a

This is true! You can make tiny pizzas by putting sauce or olive oil and cheese on saltine crackers, but... Where will we find lederhosen in our size, Frank?

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[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

This is some Terence McKenna level thinking and I love it! I've taken enough psychedelics to know that the guard rails society have erected are flimsy and easily manipulated

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Baki, Son of Ogre" pivots around the fight at the end between Baki and his father (hence the title), whose name is Yujiro. There's a phrase that pops up towards the end that is said very mysteriously, that "the strong live in a different world than everyone else". What this means is very unclear until a moment near the end of the fight. Baki has Yujiro pinned with his left arm behind his back, face-down on asphalt. Normally, this is a situation where your options are very limited, since Yujiro's right arm should not be able to effectively reach Baki (who is basically sitting on his back). Yujiro, instead of trying to reach back to Baki on his right side, instead effectively performs an overextended hook punch through the asphalt to hit Baki on his left side while simultaneously rotating out of the arm pin.

It's absolutely moronic writing but nonetheless also very clever and it has stuck with me, and this reminded me of that. I suppose it's just lateral thinking, but there's always some interesting way to challenge your assumptions in different contexts.

If my description is unclear, it's chapter 280. And yes, I just like talking about dumb manga.

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[–] punk_punk@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Since American walls have already been mocked, I will instead drop my trite wisdom and say that revolutions are always completely impossible until somebody applies revolutionary theory creatively enough and a revolutionary task is creative application. Ik most of these words have been sullied by porky-happy neoliberal overuse. Work with me hea 🤌

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

noclip irl with this 1 weird trick

Walls? Pah! stirner-cool

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[–] muddi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Interestingly I was having a conversation with myself about this. That ethics, law, and other normative systems are just sets of rules, just like how physical reality follows laws of nature.

The difference is that the "metric" of reality is existence itself — the measure is that something exists, or it doesn't: there isn't anything that violates the laws of nature that exists.

But in the human realm, there must be some metric ("good" vs "bad" ) that drives measures (ethical/legal/profitable/etc. vs not). But also there are indeterminates (neither moral nor immoral) or disputes, because there are many systems under existence (your moral vs my moral).

I also don't know what I was trying to say tbh, someone started screaming on the bus at that point. I guess basically just that humans tend to silo their conceptions of things which don't match up with each other perfectly already, let alone realizing that the ultimate reality of things doesn't give a fuck about our conventions.

Building a perfect system or even a minimally common-to-all system seems like a fool's errand, like liberalism "we just need to declare human rights that no one can disagree with, and then no one will violate them" fucking Kant and Rawls

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[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

In my area there was a jewelry store next to a pet grooming store and they just broke into the pet grooming store and busted through the wall to get into the jewelry store. Never caught.

[–] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wish I wasn't so sleepy and had something interesting to contribut to the discussion, but I really appreciate this post and everyone's conversation. I've been trying to change my habits of thinking recently (mostly by trying new things, such as drawing), as well as more occult stuff that I doubt Mr Hexbear would approve of. I fucking love that anecdote you posted, thank you!

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Have you read the Dark Marxism blog that is all about the occult elements of capitalist ideology?

https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/

A bit of occult analysis with historical materialism is fine with many of us here.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This shows the importance of praxis and how your org should incorporate people who come from different backgrounds. There's no way he would've figured that shit out while he was at the brainstorming and planning stage of the burglary. It's only when he was at the process of burglarizing and with multiple burglaries under his belt did he come to that conclusion. People coming from different backgrounds is also important since ideology doesn't affect everyone equally. Within a given context, one person might be completely blinded while another person might plainly see what's in front of them.

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