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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Makes sense why time zones drive programmers insanse

I would love to see this map animated. If it looks insane now, imagine it changing every year.

Where I used to live, the time zone would change by city and county, some of which (but not all) followed DST as well.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I think we should all operate on gmt. One time, all the time, 24 hour clock. No timezones, no daylight savings. Just seconds ticking away.

[–] mySFWaccount@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Please, for love of God, just end daylight savings time. That is all I ask.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck that. End standard time and make everything savings time. Much prefer longer, brighter evenings

[–] mySFWaccount@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am fine with literally any time as long as it remains constant.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Monkey paw, time stops for everyone but you.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same. Pick one. I don't care which. They both have their pros and cons. Plus, it's an arbitrary number and nothing actually forces people to believe things like "the work day should be 9-5" (though admittedly, changing social norms is difficult).

Saskatchewan has the right idea. Its timezone is a bit weird, but nobody there cares and is just glad to not have to deal with DST. For non Canadians: it's the part of Canada in this map where something that looks like it should be -6 (central time) juts into -7 (mountain time). They don't have DST and it's one of the few things Saskatchewan gets right anymore.

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] JDtheGeek@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When programming software we use UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) which is basically just GMT.

As someone in the UK, I am very happy for the world to start using UTC too 😂

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Epoch time is superior. We’re gonna party like it’s 946684799!

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The Borg approves this message.

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you get into political issues... why is it centered on the UK and not, say, India or China? Ridiculous, petty? Absolutely. And 100% how humanity works.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Umm… we are already using GMT/UTC, it’s just that we adjust it based on offsets because long ago before clocks we used sundials and high noon was just the time when the sun was at its highest.

The problem with adjusting the time locally is that it leads to all kinds of problems. 9am… where?

This has nothing to do with politics. No country is trying to change the 0:00 time.

I hope you understand now. Let me know if you don’t and I’ll elaborate.

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[–] verysoft@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be good for the modern world, but it would take a few generations or more for people to get used to it. People have 9-5 so ingrained in their minds that everytime the discussion of DST comes up, they forget that just changing the work hours is possible. Honestly though, changing time is too much effort for not so much gain, so it is very unlikely to ever happen.

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[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ticking away, the moments that make up the dog days.

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[–] MoonMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The biggest time difference on land is between China and Afghanistan, 3 and a half hours, but there is no border crossing point there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakhjir_Pass

AFAIK The biggest time difference where you can cross is between Tajikistan and China, you would have to set your clock by 3 hours. There is one border crossing there Kulma Pass


Kiribati switched to the other side of the date line in 1994, so there are 3 different days at the same time on the Globe for an hour:

  • Kiritimati, Kiribati, UTC+14: Sunday, 00:30
  • London, UK, UTC+1: Saturday, 11:30
  • Midway Island, US, UTC-11: Friday, 23:30

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20231014T103000&p1=274&p2=136&p3=1890

So be careful when you ask what day it is

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here's one of my old posts that France and Spain are in the wrong time zone because of Nazis: https://lemmy.ca/post/2220899

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I did not know that.

I've always assumed the France chose a different timezone just to not be on the same timezone than the British

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[–] NRDK@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't aware that there are countries with 1/2 hours difference

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look at Nepal (Northeast of India) over there with 5¾ ...

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[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Biggest difference i found was the china pakistan border, 3 hours. China is also all in one timezone which must create problems.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

There's a thin bit of Afghanistan separating Pakistan and Tajikistan, and it reaches all the way to the Chinese border. That tiny bit of border (which is closed on the Chinese side and also a mountain pass thousands of metres high, but it is indeed a border) has a three and a half hour difference

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it probably solves more problems.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Wow, the USA isn't the insane one for once.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As a kid I read Around the World in Eighty Days, and the international date line concept blew my mind! I love maps like this ever since!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LongbottomLeaf@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

That's a unique track.

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