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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 119 points 1 year ago (11 children)

He’s dehumanizing the many over the acts of a few. He’s just trying to make it easier to justify the ramping up of their genocide.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

THIS! When those in power start dehumanizing others, you know there's killing coming. Hotel Rwanda is a great history lesson on this.

It feels like a great time for everyone to take a massive chill pill.

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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel: we literally don't think people in Gaza are human

Westerners: I can't tell the difference between the two sides!

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Hah! Nice argument~ but you failed to consider that

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[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's like the people responsible for terror on innocent people are animals, now. But how long were they treated like animals before they ever acted like them?

Yea, complicated it is.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not complicated. Stop doing ethnic cleansing on Palestinians. Up until that point, they deserve everything that happens to them.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the western leader support this war crime instead of stopping it.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Seeing as Americans Canadians and many other nationalities were killed in the attack by hamas. That was a foregone conclusion. It would have been unusual if these countries don't respond to support those attacked.

I cannot support hamas's attack. I can absolutely blame Israel for creating the conditions that brought it about. When the average age of someone in Gaza is 19. And there wasn't some sort of population boom 19 years ago. Something is seriously fucked up.

Two wrongs don't make a right. And I wish the United States was largely going to stay out of the cluster fuck Israel has created. But with Americans dead. As I said that was not going to happen.

[–] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strange, terrorist organization don't seem to pop up in countries with better human rights.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a meaningless label. Who decided they were terrorists? You?

If killing civilians is the requirement to be terrorists, every single military on Earth is a terrorist organization. That's what war IS.

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[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can pop up anywhere. Terrorism occurs when extremists of any type had enough of whatever they are upset about and it pushes them over the edge. Whether it is reasonable or not. Regular people can also be pushed to do terrible things with just the right amount of propaganda and other emotional manipulation. Some people just enjoy it.

Believing it cannot happen to you too with enough pressure and lies is wrong.

[–] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a good point I was a bit too black and white with my comment. There definitely seems to be a correlation between size and violence of terrorist groups, and the human rights of the area they riside in.

Also totally agree that it can happen to me. Gotta acknowledge that you don't really know anything and you are pretty much always just taking someone's word for things. I believe the Earth is round, but I'm just taking people's word for it.

[–] yaminoEXE@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israeli government support the genocide of the Palestinian people. Everyone else are just planning to profit from this.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

[–] catfish@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Argentina occupied the Falkland Islands, the UK military who fought them weren't described as a terrorist organisation. Not by anyone with an ounce of sense at least, and certainly not by the islanders who's land and homes had been occupied.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every indigenous group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I wonder what the difference might be...

![us-foreign-policy](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7aaf9444-94ef-4e1e-ba7e-4c53615c92e6.png "emoji us-foreign-policy")

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

How is the UK not the occupying force there? The Falkland Islands are nowhere fucking near us.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people fighting against a genocidal state are 'bad people'? 'Terrorists', even?

What exactly is wrong about fighting back against one's own genocide? Should they be peacefully protesting it instead?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Oh stop it! There's a literal genocide going on and you feel the need to start handing out these "both sides bad!" "Reminders".

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people.

Shut the fuck up. Every Israeli "civilian" is complicit in the torture of Palestinians, except for children. Not to mention they're all potential combatants anyway.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

There is literally no difference between oppressor and oppressed, you imbecile you, absolute moron.

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

The rebels in star wars are terrorists because they killed civilians living in the death star. They're just as bad as the empire.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Every single liberation group was considered a terrorist organization. Fuck, even Antifa gets called that and they're not even an organization.

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Aren't the governments made of and supported by civilians?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

There are non-combatants in this conflict that are bad people. They cheer on the extermination of others. Sometimes that's Hamas or the PLO (they run a fund that gives stipends to families of terrorists). Other times it's certain Israeli Jews who encourage conflict while not risking their own necks because they can claim a religious exemption from military service. They seek an Israel without Palestinian territories, or for that matter Palestinians at all (aka ethnic cleansing).

I'm not saying that non-combatants should be targeted. At the same time, I am saying that just being a civilian does not mean someone lacks blame.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

In the Western country that I'm in the propaganda has been flying thick and fast all day today on every single media outlet there is about this. You can tell they're trying to justify a lot of bad things that are about to happen and have already begun.

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

This shitbag is a right wing fascist who would make Hitler blush with pride.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

And you're a fuckface for dehumanizing people.

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