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[–] Auk@kbin.social 126 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The pretty important context to this video is that the boy in question had allegedly just broken into the mayor's house and he was waiting for the police (see here for a news article about the event).

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, always important to have the context.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you trying to tell me buzzy headlines and sound bites aren’t enough to form an accurate, in depth opinion so I can have lengthy discussions with people about complex societal problems and suggest no solutions? How dare you insult my world view

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, that justifies threatening a child with death.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, not after he's been subdued.

Home invasions are inherent threats though.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Canada I don't think you can threaten it either way since you can't legally protect you property with force unless force is used on you.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That sounds like a good way to get shot first in a country that has its own fair share of guns, not even getting into the fact that violence always favors the aggressor.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're talking legally not morally boss.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I'm talking about the implications of that law as presented.

Hopefully it's a bit more contextual than that.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's the same in most civilized countries. You can sit on the guy to hold him down, you can punch if punched, stab if you see a knife, shoot if you see a gun. You can't however use disparit force if they slap you can't behead.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Last I checked Canada is safer than the U.S.

Quick numbers I could find

"Between 2003 and 2007, approximately 2.1 million household burglaries were reported to the FBI each year on average. Household burglaries ending in homicide made up 0.004% of all burglaries during that period."

So now add in all those home invasions that didn't get reported for a number of reasons and I would say they are very low risk. Pulling a gun will increase the danger.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sources need links or at least the actual name of the source, not just quotation marks.

Not sure why you're talking about the FBI after your previous statement, but home invasions by definition are when an occupant is at home. Most robberies are committed when the house is empty specifically to avoid the possibility of conflict.

Robberies are a property crime.

Invasions are a threat.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What!?! No! That complicates my emotional response! Damn you and your “context!” Leave me with my clickbait titles and feelings of justified rage! Everyone I disagree with is a reasonless Neanderthal! I am superior and always right!

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think if there was any rage it's because it's a kid and the man is a figure of power. He's supposed to represent the population and it's interests. Basically what I'm saying is, if he made an effort to know the kid maybe he could find ways to help.

When you are a kid doing bullshit do you prefer to be helped to a better path or just plain old intimidaded for no truly decent purpose.

I think we have to find ways to improve help carry the next generation so they can achieve better things. But maybe that's just bc I watch too much anime

Threatening to kill someone who isn't a threat to you is psycho shit.

[–] jimbolauski@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The mayor was restraining the boy a other person was threatening the boy.

[–] KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do people think they're funny and/or smart leaving comments like this? Literally anytime someone questions something, there's this comment.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

It's a very Reddit way to agree with a point.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is The Gaurdian a Murdoch rag?

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the guardian is an independent rag.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Bloody hell.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

I’ve got this strange feeling of relief after reading this guy ISNT from the United States. 😅🫠

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

JFC news reporting is so far below the bottom of the barrel at this point.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

There is no such thing as news anymore, it's all tabloid bullshit just looking for clicks and eyeballs.

Do we write a headline that's accurate, or one that enrages people so they click the link?

Do we write an article with facts in an unbiased manner, or do we cherry pick interesting things that will pull emotional strings and tell people how they should feel about it, so they share the article with their family and friends?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Is it bad that I saw "Barkly" and thought this was an absolutely bonkers story out of one of those towns where they let a dog be the mayor?

[–] iesou@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Feel like this guy gave in to the darkness. The wheel turns as the wheel wills.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sad their tangata whenua are still treated so badly.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

E hoa, you are posting on the World Lemmy, about an Aboriginal boy in Australia. Tangata whenua is known to perhaps 0.06% of the world.