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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 149 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Y'all remember when Windows 10 was supposedly their last OS?

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago
[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I remember that quote was taken out of context.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I could see that. It felt like a weird thing to say. Oh well. My next OS is going to be Linux if I ever get around to buying a new computer. I've been "doing it soon" for a few years lol.

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[–] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I remember reading about that and it is some subscription fee to get replacements. I always wonder if someone is still paying lol

[–] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

the last one you "buy", anyway.

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[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (16 children)

now that gaming is getting better on Linux thanks to proton, I am unbothered

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I was thinking.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I look forward to welcoming all the new Linux users πŸ™‚

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

I look forward to all the complaints on how linux isn't like windows. :)

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 8 points 1 year ago

Will you? Do you? To have and to hold? In sickness and in health?

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 year ago (22 children)

as always, Microsoft is the biggest advertiser of Linux

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

Apart from the fact that it’s a bullshit headline cobbled together from half truths to tickle your anger glands… sure.

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[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And there's NeoWin again with the Windows 12 clickbaits. This "leak" is just Windows 11 IoT Enterprise Subscription, and there's absolutely nothing nowhere that even mentions the number 12.

https://twitter.com/XenoPanther/status/1710027423981388161

[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this seems like the kind of thing they'd try to push on Business/Pro+ users, where management is willing to fork out absurd amounts of money monthly as long as the per-seat price can be vaguely justified. Doing this for home users would just be dumb. Plenty of people would see the monthly subscription and go "eh I don't need a computer, I can just use my phone."

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Y'all really need to actually click the article and read the first sentence. This has nothing to do with Windows 12, and even Neowin has clarified that right at the top in an update.

Microsoft is a bad company, but it's a little worrying when someone can just say some random things in a title and have it be believed without question, just because it paints Microsoft in a negative light.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

It's more that MS has leaned into the subscription model with Office 365 and such.

Windows is already kind of a "Freemium" OS, so I'm expecting them to continue in that fashion. Your are right, the article is mostly pointless speculation that was refuted anyways, but I'll admit it sounded a bit off to me anyways. MS wants people to be running Windows, so they can seem then GamePass subscriptions, Office365 subscriptions, and whatever other services they can think of. As such, I expect the core OS to be very free. Just what constitutes core functionality versus Premium features might change.

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[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're too smart to do this ...

More likely they will make the base OS free and charge for the premium SaaS features ... like they already do with one drive, O365 and game pass

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah that seems like the more likely move, have a free tier that starts off decent and a premium tier with 'power features' or whatever, and then slowly drift almost everything over to the 'premium' tier until in a few years you won't be able to change your desktop wallpaper without paying. That definitely sounds like the MS way to me.

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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The year of the linux desktop is coming for real this time...!

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Linux usage on pc jumps to 72%

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[–] GALM@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love when one of the richest companies on Earth (2nd by market cap, only behind Apple) just doesn't make enough money that they need to consider this bullshit. Fuck this infinite profit growth. This is so fucking stupid. Everything is a god damn subscription. Gotta wring out every penny from our customers as the good Lord intended.

[–] 2d@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's getting pretty insane isn't it? more and more obvious to the average person how consumer-unfriendly capitalism is

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

90% of all techbro "innovation" is one or more of the following:

"Put it on the cloud!"

"Make it a subscription service!"

"Put it on the blockchain!"

"Add more surveillance!"

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's so blatantly in front of me that I was like a fish not noticing water ![doomer](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/e29727db-5b25-4c11-9d6a-46a0b389e114.png "emoji doomer")

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

rip windows; thank you valve and proton

[–] gianni@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And you'll still hear "Well I know everything about Windows sucks and now I'm being charged out the ass, but I refuse to even consider switching because [one particular game doesn't work / I'm used to it]"

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was asked why I can't switch to Linux, so I replied listing the software I require Windows for, and then was called a fanboy and downvoted heavily..

[–] jsdz@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It appears that the other guy didn't call you a fanboy. He implied that you might be a troll, before you'd listed that software and after you'd called him a fanboy.

But yeah, it'll probably be a while before there's a Linux version of Adobe Illustrator, and the alternatives are different enough that it'd be a lot of work to switch even if it's otherwise practicable.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Cool, even more reason to stick with 10 as long as I can. Enshitify everything, who even cares anymore?

[–] techtalkf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Personally, the only reason I don't fully switch to Linux is because of the Adobe Suite, but other than that, I would absolutely make the switch. I'm hoping that if this promopts enough people to make the switch, then Adobe will finally make versions of their Programs for Linux.

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[–] jsdz@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Will win 7 be the last ever usable OS from Microsoft, or will Windows 13 turn out decent? Only time will tell.

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

didn't they say windows 10 was going to be the last version of windows? hence why they jumped to the number 10 as it's nice and round.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they jumped to it because ancient, poorly made software would check for Windows 9* to cover 95 and 98, and could now potentially catch windows 9 as well

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[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I said it was going to by my last version of Windows. Coincidence?

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[–] boog@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Nice! I've always wanted to try out Linux.

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