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[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope this doesn't lead to poorly maintained planes falling out of the sky on a regular basis. We have already seen what an embargo can do to the vehicle situation in Cuba, where most cars are decades old. While a jet can last, it needs those parts. It would be horrible for a jet full of people to suffer for the ambitions of their leaders.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm sure a nuclear superpower that's one of the few countries that can launch stuff into space can figure out how to keep planes running. People in the west seem to have a profound misunderstanding of the technological capabilities in Russia.

Meanwhile, the last time planes full of people were falling out of the sky was when Boeing rolled out their new planes.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They aren't a superpower. This would imply the ability to project power across the planet. And right now, Russia is struggling at the ends of it's own rail lines. And how many aircraft carriers do they have? Zero.

They are nuclear armed, but I doubt if they can maintain 1% of their arsenal given the corruption and neglect evident in the rest of their military. They do love blowing money researching old-fashioned "super weapons," ala Hilter's last days. But they can't afford more than the demo model. Or the clean up when they splash isotopes all over their own lands when one blows up in testing. Meanwhile, America, the real superpower, is on to 21st century tech.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're an ignoramus with an axe to grind. There's no point trying to correct your nonsense. Go read up on hypersonic weapons though.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Putin's nuclear powered, nuclear tipped, nuclear flavored wet dream? That's so pedestrian. We're living in the future, not a 1950s pulp novel. And again... they can't even maintain their conventional forces. It's highly dubious they'll be able to support more than the demo, or even that, as was the case with the Buran.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so pedestrian that US can't make them. Here's some more pedestrian stuff US can't produce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System

You're an ignoramus with an axe to grind.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol. Can't or already has complete domination? I love to root for the underdog, but come on, Russia isn't even in the same league.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, that's why Russia is getting spanked by a nation the size of Nebraska. It's good to dream, but don't quit your day job.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd love to visit the alternate universe you inhabit one day.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's room for you, Yogi. Join the rest of us and live in peace. There's some real issues we all need to deal with. Pull your head out of your ass and deal with the real existential threats we all face.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd rather stay sober than smoke whatever you're smoking.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But there can't be much air up there, with your head up your ass.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In a few months we'll conclusively see whose head is up whose ass. You seem to think that if you just convince enough people of something being true then it will magically become true. You're about to find out that's not how the real world works.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That, my friend, is straight-up projection. Yes, we shall see. But I doubt it'll be that long before the dust settles.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The difference between us is that my position is the same as that of the actual experts, like US colonels and US federal reserve. Meanwhile, your position is based on literal propaganda you consume. You go around regurgitating this nonsense while getting upset when facts are presented to you.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol, you're still projecting. You literally resort to name calling whenever the facts don't fit your narrative.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

LOL, you clearly don't understand what the word projection means. Not really surprising given that you don't seem to understand much of anything. Also rich having you talk about facts not fitting the narrative. Facts like Russia having a stable economy that's not dependent on the west, or having advanced manufacturing capability, or even simple facts like Buran not actually being a copy of the shuttle. Funny how you just pivoted the conversation when I presented you with that fact. You keep accusing me of projection while that's precisely what you yourself are doing. The most hilarious part is that you lack any sort of self awareness and just keep clowning around here thinking you're making great points.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You make dozens of comments on a daily basis attacking people over and over, you were catastrophically wrong about fundamental facts relating to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, evinced no willingness whatsoever to engage in self-examination about why you were wrong, and you can't seem to express disagreement without antagonizing others, have an irritating inclination toward self-satisfied last-wordism which doesn't make you right but just wrong in ways that are tedious to litigate, and your entire comment history is a history of you arguing with other people 24x7.

I can't think of any thread on lemmy where you did anything that was contributing to building a positive community and I think the community would be more healthy without you here.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're claiming that I'm catastrophically wrong about fundamental facts. What specific facts are you claiming I'm wrong about?

Meanwhile, you can feel free to block me if my comments offend you so much. What you mean by "building a positive community" must refer to having a community of people who agree with you. I think the community would be a healthier place without people such as yourself.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's a cat and mouse game every few years where you have trolls who poison communities, and communities that adapt their community norms in response, and then trolls who adapt their behavior to new communities norms and on and on.

I think modernized community norms for 2022 would identify most of the stuff you are doing: expressing disagreement through antagonization and ridicule, gish galloping, one-dimensional focus on controversial subjects, lack of gracious contrition when wrong or even when right, and a cumulative net effect of constantly creating hostile back-and-forths as within the bounds of what it means to be a troll who poisons a community in 2022. If it were up to me we would update community norms on Lemmy to exclude this kind of behavior.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a complete and utter mischaracterization of my interactions with the community. Let's start with the fact that I've had my account here for two years now, and in that time pretty much all my interactions with the community have been positive. Go ahead and look back through my posts and comments.

The only time I've started having negative interactions was when I started being hounded by a handful of trolls such as @julianus on the specific topic of the conflict in Ukraine. I haven't had any negative interactions with other members of community outside literally four or five people who suddenly appeared on Lemmy and whose history is pretty much exclusively spreading misinformation about the situation in Ukraine.

I'm very glad that people such as yourself aren't deciding the norms for the community. However, you can feel free to start your own instance and invite the trolls following me around to join it. Maybe you can all be happy there together.