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[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Downward Left Arrows Inside a Circle: Symbol associated with anti-fascist anarchists with the arrows representing unity, activity, and discipline.

Most informed fed

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, some succdem is going to be arrested for emailing a correction

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Critical support to whoever fed them that bs as their plea bargain

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Really funny that they include "originally designed to cover swastikas" there, and "antifa stands for anti-fascist" elsewhere, and no one at the FBI even blinks.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Wobblies stay winning.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Black cat: Image often symbolize sabotage or to encourage criminal actions.

![party-cat](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/fb7eda3f-e5b4-4287-805a-a788d31a2e08.gif "emoji party-cat")

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FBI Chairman: Antifa are the real fascists.

[–] Kepion@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

It has fascist right there in the name!

[–] cynesthesia@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

fuck the feds are calling us anarchists

[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh you have these too. It wasn't that long ago that I read a similar classification of terrorism on the webpage of my countrys public health (an offive of health and welfare) of all places and they had listed "extreme left" as one form of extremism.

They then went on to state that this leftist "terror" tends to be non-violent, but I don't know... both-sidesing is a helluva drug it seems.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

both-sidesing is a helluva drug it seems.

Today MSNBC is doing something totally unlike them. They're having on "reasonable" house republicans to try to explain the mess the republicans made of half of congress. It's insane level of both sides-ing because these "reasonable" GOP are the sorts of people that in the next hour could go on Fox News and say how the 2020 was "stolen" from Trump. They are just as fascist as the "maga wing" and always put themselves and their party above country.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

always put themselves and their party above country

Edging a little close to the lib β€œAmerica isn’t like this”

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to this? I want to see some brainworms.

Funny how they always have to do the both sides shit, when was the last time there was left-wing violence in Finland? Maybe something minor may have happened in the 70s at a push.

[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

![fidel-salute](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/9a5763af-1614-43e4-ac08-6099f40c0c55.png "emoji fidel-salute")

lol: The violent extreme right: they organize violent protests, assault people and destroy property

The violent extreme left: anarchists and antifascists who mostly post stuff online

These two things are surely worthy of being listed alongside each other ![galaxy-brain](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/fa05d4fe-f163-40e0-a03d-912cd48096ad.png "emoji galaxy-brain") ![centrist](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/42c3c427-17ea-41aa-958e-c3e33ef95186.png "emoji centrist") They didn't even bother to come up with an example of leftists being violent (mostly because that doesn't really happen unlike fascist violence), just that they mostly do stuff online, but that's apparently enough to call them the violent extreme left.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

US anarchists confuse me. The ones I've met weren't impressive and didn't seem like they were capable of much, and yet the federal government is completely terrified of them and treats them like an ISIS terror cell.

[–] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had one effective terror campaign a century ago and these days they dare to feed the homeless. That's pretty much it

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m of the opinion that the feds don’t actually understand the principles of communism or anarchism. I’ve seen people ask the question here about β€œdo you think some of the feds / deep state folks are actually really well versed in Marxist theory?” and I really think they aren’t. I have never seen a right winger be able to correctly articulate the principles of Marxism, even when they seem to genuinely try and study it to critique it (I’m talking about people like the Austrian economists). I don’t think they’re distinguishing between anarchists, communists, et al other than β€œscary lefties who want to destroy society and make everyone equal” or whatever.

I'm currently getting a degree in political science, and while there are definitely Marxists in the field, doing Marxist analysis (usually under the labels Political Economy, or World Systems Theory, everyone nods and agrees with Marxist analysis, as long as you don't call it that), my university happens to be associated with a nearby air force base, and is therefore swarmed with ghouls who wanna be CIA agents, and shit.

The amount of PHD's who's area of expertise overlaps with Marxism, but who knows nothing about it except for the shit they hear from the base (ie, east Asia "experts"), is agonizing.

I had a professor try to tell me Bourgeoisie still meant Middle Class, and that Marxism asserted a class above them which controlled everything, that he couldn't define when I pressed him on it....

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I remember watching a documentary about that guy who famously gamed some McDonalds promotion and it included interviews with the actual FBI agent that had been called to investigate it. They agent spoke like an absolute idiot. Seriously he had the air of a 13 year old frat boy.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

have enough tools to make their job idiot proof

This is really it at the federal level, especially with investigations into political groups. You have tons of resources and access to information, and the ongoing nature of what you're investigating means you can take however much time you need to build your case (contrast this with, say, solving a murder that has already been committed). The DOJ works with you from the jump to make sure you're getting what you need for court. When you get to court, you're dealing with lengthy federal sentences so your defendants have tons of incentives to make a deal.

If you really fuck up and there's a newsworthy crime you theoretically could have prevented, that's spun as you needing more power/resources next time around.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

Keep the citizens and politicians scared to keep the funding up. It's what the joint chiefs is doing with China.

just force of habit i guess

the state maintains a view of the world that justifies the excesses of power. anarchists want to Abolish Everything Now, and therefore provide a convenient reason to treat the population like enemy combatants.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

Hey at least they recognized the USA flag as a terrorist symbol

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

I am curious if they have something like this for Nazis.

I am even more curious if this thing has ever been used to charge Nazis with anything

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

An Andy Ngo tweet...

Thank you for reporting on this. The Antifa cell in southern California being prosecuted by the San Diego DA's office on felony violent conspiracy charges used some of these symbols when they carried out an attack. Several have been convicted already and a trial is set for the remaining suspects.

In Georgia, 61 suspects from all over the country have been charged with RICO, domestic terrorism and/or money laundering charges in connection with a violent series of attacks that also featured some of the Antifa symbols in the FBI document.

Nitter

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I hope he drops another fruit salad

[–] cryptymythy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

The San Diego case is such trumped up bs

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember when he said he got the shit beat out of him by anarchists? I’m pretty sure he was lying but I hope it was true.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Obviously a total failure considering his continuing to breathe

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when he got hit with a milkshake and started speculating that maybe Antifa was putting quick-drying cement in milkshakes? Lmao.

And then people went all over the internet demonstrating that antifascists holding drinks were actually drinking them, that quick drying cement would be dissolved by sugar, and that the videos of people preparing milkshakes tended to be instructions on how to make them vegan? Yeah, good times lol

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I fuckin hate that guy

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want the feds to write explanations for the entire Hexbear emaji catalogue.

![hammer-sickle](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/867ff60c-eb38-40be-bf7d-a1e7d6264e55.png "emoji hammer-sickle") Hammer and sickle: Used to represent communism

![amerikkka](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png "emoji amerikkka") Burning American flag: Used to express anti-American sentiment

![standards](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/4e7fcf2f-ae0d-4857-84de-5302dfa96219.png "emoji standards") Smiling watermelon: Fruit-related extremism/crime, I guess?

![chicken-bop](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/cab63627-57c3-4b92-9b77-bcb1519f9d8e.gif "emoji chicken-bop") Dancing chicken: ???

[–] melon_popsicle@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The watermelon is my old personal emoji from cytube lol. It came from an album art https://wearestandards.bandcamp.com/album/fruit-island

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tag yourself, I'm "individual throwing a Molotov cocktail"

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Anarcho Banksy-ist

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least they balance it out with the punisher skull

E: bet the contextual disclaimer was added because of the skull (and the fact that some nazis like ACAB as well)

[–] impiri@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

They mixed up the anprim and ancom pictures

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The FBI is the worst terrorist organization of them all.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looool. "ANTIFA" as a domestic terrorism symbol. They literally give the REAL definition right next to it. You can't make this shit up

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[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the FBI has the BS lib take on the three arrows ofc

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anarchists are socdems confirmed

jkjk we love our anarchist comrades ![left-unity-4](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/68b4e09d-1bd1-4616-a9fc-5dffde94e49a.png "emoji left-unity-4")

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