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Man I'm real tired of the constant negativity around new games. I rarely see positive stuff online.
You don't like a game? Just move on. Hell, downvotes and move on. But leaving comments on things like screenshots about how idiotic a game is, man find something else to do.
I agree OP, it is a gorgeous game. The landscapes are incredibly striking
It does help those on the fence make a more informed decision whether to purchase or not. Just whitewashing with only positive reviews and comments is misleading and stifles innovation. Trolling and opinions without examples suck and should be ‘downvoted.’
BG3 has plenty of bugs but has glowing reviews for a new game. People should be able to voice their opinions without attacking other users and receive the same in return.
I have put in over 50 hours and enjoy this game, but would definitely NOT recommend it to someone who isn’t familiar with Bethesda’s other titles.
There's a thousand places to leave negative reviews. I'm just annoyed at the "Hey look X game has a cool thing" and the immediate "You enjoy X game? You're an idiot for finding enjoyment out of this, you're stupid, look how cool I look for shitting on it". It's transparent and annoying.
Voice your opinions sure, but if all you do though is shit on people for enjoying something, then that's a dick move.
I don't think anybody is shitting on anyone. It's a public forum and we're all allowed to say what we think. How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively? Everyone has their own tastes. I played through and enjoyed cyberpunk a couple of months after launch at a time when it was roundly shat upon but it didn't spoil the game for me.
I don't think anybody is shitting on anyone It's a public forum and we're all allowed to say what we think How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively?
It doesn't matter what you think. Try posting something positive about starfield - even in the Starfield community. You will get shat on. A lot.
The problem isn't that negativity doesn't have a space, its that positivity doesn't have a space. If someone posts something positive and gets shit on, they're going to be less likely to post positive things in the future. Or react to negativity with their own positivity. That's how psychology works. We do a thing and get a shock, we'll be less likely to do it again.
But more importantly, a lot of negative nancies on the internet love to defend yukking on other's yums with lofty goals around "discourse" and "free speech". But they seem to forget that's not how the real world or human psychology works. This post isn't looking for "discourse". OP is just saying " wow this game has cool vistas" maybe hoping for some stories or reinforcement or fun conversations with other fans and you all are responding with "game sucks". What is this "discourse" supposed to accomplish other than, at best piss off OP, and at worst tear down his enjoyment of the game.
I mean think about it. What if someone were showing off a coat they brought and like with some randos, and you waltz in and are like "that coat's fucking ugly and you should feel bad about buying it." What kind of discourse would you expect other than "the hell? Who asked you? Fuck off".
Sure, we're all entitled to post and reply what we want, but it won't stop us from calling you an asshole. You want to shit on a game? Go for it, there's plenty of hate circlejerks you can join in on.
I was specifically meaning that I didn't think anyone was shitting on anybody here in this thread. I didn't say the game sucked or that it's fucking ugly or any of those other hyperbolic statements. I read somebody else's thoughts on the game and provided my own. I agree the game can look very good, I said I really enjoyed some of the quests. I'm not a part of the starfield community, I'm not trying to piss on anybodies parade. I just like playing games and talking about games I've played.
Right, because the people who are paid to review the full game over hundreds of hours and have spent, in many cases, years, analyzing their biases and determining the right way to construct objective criticsm and have peer review editors to check their work....
Nah. Randos on the internet who have tendancy to form circlejerks for fake internet points and for minor doses of dopamine and who may or may not have even completed even a tiny portion of the game - that's what I need to make an informed decision.
EDIT Lol at the coward downvotes with no replies. You know I'm right, you just don't want to admit it.
Just makes me wonder if the same thing happens in other communities. Say someone posts a photo of a National Park, are there replies how they've hiked most of the trails at that park and decided it's not worth visiting?
I can see both sides too, "well we are informing people about the cons of that park, so they aren't eaten by the vicious bears!". I get that, I do! People have an opinion they want to share, nothing really wrong with that. Does that understanding make it enjoyable for me as the person just sharing the photo? Not so much...😂
You have this a lot in Apple user dooming Android, just to never get out of the golden cage.
I still enjoy Starfield after 60 hours and the enjoyment is even growing. I'm sick of pretending the game isn't good, just because the hive mind decided so. It has flaws sure, but which game doesn't?
Some environments are amazing and change so much by daytime or weather. I love this.
Screw the hive mind!
I still find it very good game. The upgrade systems could use a bit better of a tutorial but I respect a game that takes a minute for a player to figure out the puzzle. Because those are the games I like.
The Mantis puzzle was a bit painful but I got it after a few tries. But the game seems to have more to it. I am enjoying just traveling space and seeing what is out there.
Spaceship upgrades seem cool. The shipbuilder has a good potential for a sandbox deal if you get enough money. Unlocking and upgrading is intwinded with the story which is normal. The dialogue is a bit overwhelming at times, but it's space Skyrim. I don't know what people are up in arms about. It looks gorgeous. It's fun most of the time. What do people want?
Can you tell me what makes it draw you in?
I like the game as a whole. I could name you shortcomings of nearly every aspect of the game yet as a whole I have a really good time.
Some quests have a too early ending or sudden dropoff, yet they were fun and the dialogues were good. Building your spacecraft is fun, despite the restrictions on how you can rotate stuff. The points of interest are often kind of lacking, but then on I'm in space and I don't mind mostly "empty" planets as that's what space is.
It's actually kind of strange, because I don't like No Man's Sky. I find that game so boring and tedious. While Starfield is engaging to me. I wish the survival aspects of the game were a bit more, as they got nerfed too much. I'd like to prepare for the planet conditions.
I don't like that unique weapon rewards aren't unique other than a name/skin. But the overall weapon of the game are fun and I have many in my inventory that I barely use because I enjoy the ones I main. (Meaning I have enough for New Game+ as I just focus on laser and energy weapons at the moment)
The environment often shines at night, the weather looks great and I like the music creating a good synergy.
I found NPCs to be enjoyable too, while I'm sad I can't put two NPC of Neon in my ship crew (the bagger girl and the gang girl, sorry I don't have their names at hand)
Space battles are fun and not too hard but not too easy. (I play on hard difficulty though).
I have fun with the quests too. Just a few days ago I did a side mission with a rough AI, that I could solve peacefully with Ryujin dialogue options. I have yet to visit Chrimson Fleet and do most of the main story. I'm just at the beginning and there's so much great stuff yet to happen.
I wanted to love this game and it did suck me in for 30 or so hours. But once I realized none of the factions mean anything and you can just join up with conflicting factions and kill whoever you want and then just pay off bounty I lost all fucks. What’s the point of being space pirate if I can just kill other space pirates with no penalty, and then go become a freestar ranger and a UC shill and still be a pirate somehow and nobody cares? It’s idiotic
I played for 80 hours or so, I really wanted to like it. I could forgive the sometimes humorous bugs and the endless loading screens if it wasn't so boring. Some of the side quests were OK but ultimately it's just not enough to keep me coming back.
I can never tell if comments like this are a joke. Starfield has tons of issues, don't get me wrong, but I'm still playing it because I'm having fun. Why put 80 hours into something if you aren't enjoying it?
Personally if I'm not having fun in a game, I'd just stop after a few hours.
I didn't hate it, as I said there were parts I enjoyed. I did all the faction quests and maybe 70 percent of the main story and just came to the realisation that I was finding it a bit of a chore. If I wasn't having any fun I'd have quit earlier but as I say it just became dull to me. If you're having fun more power to you, different people like different things.
So no different than every other BGS game newer than MW then.
You can't join all 4 factions through to the end in Fallout 4. At some point you piss off the other 3.
And in Oblivion and Skyrim, none of the factions are really opposed to each other, until DLC with the Dawnguard vs Vampires.
The only conflicting factions I can think of are the Crimson Fleet and UC Navy, but even then you aren't going around telling everyone you are a pirate.
Which ones do you mean exactly?
I may give it a try sometime, if I ever get bored of Baldur's Gate 3. But at 300 hours I'm thinking about another playthrough.
Beautiful landscapes, boring gameplay.