Wait, is this what DeSantis meant when he said “Florida is where woke goes to die”?
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
249 points (98.1% liked)
News
23296 readers
3394 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
You awake in Florida? You die.
Isn't this a big deal for hurricanes also?
Hence all of the home owners insurance providers exiting Florida.
DeSantis and Scott's governorships have really failed to prepare this state for what's coming, but hey, what do you expect from a bunch of corrupt pieces of shit like them and the rest of the Florida GOP?
Home insurance is going to change in a crazy way over the next decade.
they're trying to fix real estate losses from wfh stuff while also seeking to displace people from their strongest wealth asset
Or maybe just maybe it's really dumb for a company to insure a house that is going to burn down or flood every single year going forward...
¿Por que no los dos? (Why not both?)
DeSantis and Abbott have both said that they are changing their laws and allowing certain things to happen in order to push "certain people" out of their states, they absolutely seem to want to push as many poor, minorities, and overall left leaning people out of the state, as Senator Rick Scott of Florida (former governor of Florida) said:
“We actually don’t believe in socialism. Some people in our state lived under it, and we know people lived under socialism—it’s not good. It’s not good for anybody.” In a video posted to Twitter, Scott made it clear that socialists and communists are “not welcome in the Sunshine State” while reiterating a few points to really drill in the warning: “We like freedom, liberty, capitalism, things like that.”
https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/status/1673662921652551680?lang=en
you're talking specifically from the insurance company's perspective.
the people running florida and likely others with wealth to influence them are aiming for more. the insurance leaving the state is part of that.
companies do not exist in a vacuum
Sea surface temperatures are linked to more intense storms. But there’s a ton of factors that affect hurricane strength. Wind shear is probably one of the biggest.
That said, given the right conditions and all things else being conducive to intensification, I would think higher SSTs would strongly encourage more rapid and higher intensification.
You're right about this. There's also been studies done recently that suggest that hurricanes have been intensifying generally in recent years and there will most likely be a continued trend so total frequency will go down but more intense hurricanes will become more common.
The thing is there are cycles for this stuff. That will continue too. In Florida the years from 2004-2006 had large numbers of storm with high landfall counts. Followed by years of relative inactivity. So these cycles will also continue. Granted the storms that do but may be more intense, we are also a LOT better at prediction and modeling. The accuracy we had at 2 days in the early 2000s is closer to the accuracy we have at 5 days now.
Of course there's cycles but even removing decadal trends, it seems like there's there's still an increasing trend in terms of intensity. And slower years of extreme events in there could be somewhat related to the climate hiatus period but I'm not 100% on that. And you're absolutely right that prediction and modeling has gotten substantially better but that doesn't mean these storms won't still be costly. It's an interesting issue for sure
Really interested in how he will deal with the rising oceans and climate change and how he will blame it on the gays or something
My money is that he continues to just not acknowledge it while it continues to get worse
He and his ilk will likely acknowledge it, but only in a way where he'll blame people that weren't responsible for it to deflect just like they always do.
These people are constantly gaslighting and shifting goal posts and there will undoubtedly be a time when they will recognize that climate change is real, but pretend that they've always thought so, but with their own wacky spin that blames some kind of vulnerable minority.
Hey there's lots of Jews down in Florida, right? I'm sure that's a scapegoat trope that won't play out again! I'm sure fascists that have targeted minorities won't act like scorpions in the near future!
Man it all looks bleak if you assume people like him are going to be in power, so vote and fight like hell to fight against them. Don't let these dipshits drag our country down into a bloody civil war full of wanton violence and despair that it has never seen before. That shit will sink this country, its economy and its people like a brick, so don't let them while we still have a peaceful time and ways we can act.
He'll blame Biden somehow.
This is how it will be done
It's all the hot steamy sex that causes those hurricanes, obviously.
He'll be gone before it matters enough to regular voters
Dumb state full of dumb people. Going to learn about climate change when every beach in the state is buried under 25 feet of seaweed for the next 1,000 years.
The water around the Keys is 90-92 degrees currently. I don't know much about how ocean temps affect sea life but that seems very high.
Boiled shrimp, crabs, and lobster are good.
So how do we get giant heat sinks in the water and harness the energy?
Heat's too diffuse to be useful. Entropy 🙃
Seriously I'm dumb but wouldn't it just be transfer of heat? I was joking btw but now I'm invested lol.
You need a temperature gradient to extract energy.
The water is still cooler than the atmosphere just less than usual.
It would be a few degrees warmer than deep ocean water, so you could maybe power one of those toy stirling engines with a heat sink near the surface and one deep down, but the amount of usable energy per m^2 would be milliwatts at best.
There is a temperature gradient from deep water to shallow, the sterling cycle is just not efficient enough to gain energy with a massive deep-shallow-deep heat pipe system.
That's usually the information I'm looking for.
Even if the concept works in theory, on practice it may not yield enough magnitude to be useful.
I had to look it up, it's dense and I have no idea how it works. I'm going back to art lol.
I see, thank you.
I’m not denying climate change. I was recently in Florida and it is, indeed, hot af.
The article is saying that there’s evidence that the heat is causing coral to die. They really don’t know the extent of the impact.
Vague article titles are just a pet peeve of mine. This whole article could have been summed up in less than 3 sentences.
Quote:
That would mean “significant and severe” bleaching will start in the next week and the coral could start to die altogether within a month, he said.
“It still remains to be seen if this event is going to be more or less severe than previous events,” Manzello said. “However, all of the evidence right now is pointing to the fact that it’s going to be one of the more severe events we’ve seen.”
Kinda the nature of climate science/news though. Too many variables to report in absolutes; and historically these kinds of articles also err on the more conservative side of any kind of projections so as to not seem alarmist, so I suspect that's a big factor in the "well, it could be super horrible, but y'know maybe we forgot to carry a 1 or something in our math and it's actually going to be only kind of horrible... time will tell!" -kinda language. Gotta leave some wiggle room for people to be carry that wishful optimism.
I mean, the surface temperature at the Keys is 92 degrees. Thats like bathtub temperatures.
and here we've been having the coolest summer of the century
view more: next ›