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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Niko Avacado is doing anything for attention. YouTube is the medium, but not to blame. Neither is your television for making Kardashians a thing. It's humans responding to humans, the technology doesn't have a factor.

[–] threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Youtube is absolutely to blame for allowing people to do this to themselves for attention.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

to themselves

Nik has a choice here. But he is choosing fame over his health. I'm not judging, Evil Knievel and all of the jackass guys made the same choices. But do you lay the blame at the inventor of the camera? or MTV? Or the fans? Or the companies that commercials ran during these events? Where exactly does the blame stop?

YouTube takes down other self harm videos.

This is not different.

But also the guy's on a weight loss journey now or whatever so the timing of the criticism is a bit poor.

[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

a choice

Yeah why can't he just choose to be healthy smh

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it a cliff's fault if people jump off it?

[–] Black616Angel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

No, but the cliff in your metaphor is the food, and no one blames the food.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

YouTube can ban mukbang videos but they won't, so they hold some responsibility at least.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Youtube is a shit platform literally boosting immoral thieves on official platforms because they're "popular" with little kids who don't know how to skip ads.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This is about Niko Avocado or whatever the fuck his name is right? I heard that he was losing weight (again) but that it actually seemed likely to happen this time, anyone know his current state?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I don't see how YouTube is to be blamed for someone wanting to be popular to the point of eating themselves to death (or any other harmful excess).

This is purely a problem of poor self-esteem and peer pressure.

[–] metalcheems@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Self esteem and peer pressure are probably a part of it, but I think money is too. Both youtube and nikado are making money off of what could be considered self harm through binge eating. The company could easily demonetize or ban his content to remove that motivating factor, but chooses not to. (I'm not up to date on the latest drama with this so maybe they changed their tune)

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, they are not a public service like roads which are mandated to allow everyone. They are a private company that decides who gets to say what and who they promote. So they are encouraging him.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The viewers who continue to watch him are encouraging him, not the platform itself. 🤦‍♂️

If people didn't consume his kind of content, there wouldn't be a problem.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's both. Youtube profits off of people viewing him so they have some responsibility. Though I do agree that the sickos watching him contribute and shouldn't encourage him.

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The YouTube algorithm determines whose eyeballs are on what. It's not like our feeds are 100% randomized.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does the algorithm force you to click on and watch? Does it put a gun to your head and make you like and subscribe? Join their Patreon?

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No it doesn't. The YouTube algorithm determines whose eyeballs are on what.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your stupid take would allow child abuse on YouTube.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meh, give up. Let me spell it out:

  1. Corporations are evil and no one has personal agency.
  2. Person responsibility is the job of the corporations.
  3. Back to point 1.

Darwin might have a word regarding this kinda thing.