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We had a very efficient and funny campaign to inform the general public that screenshots are not memes. However, people keep posting screenshots in this community. I propose that we establish a rule banning screenshots. Maybe there is a dedicated community or screenshots enthusiasts could create one. Of course if this proposal is widely opposed, I will withdraw it and go hide in a cave, never to be heard again. Also, cartoons are not memes either but this is a battle for another day.

Edit: added brackets to the title for clarity

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[–] Gutotito@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No need to hide in a cave, bro, but screenshots-of-screenshots, at least as far as I've seen lately, are already a part of "the culture." There's no winning this war; you can only hope to survive it.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I beg to disagree. Lemmy is new, doesn't have to cave to "the culture" that is now prevalent on reddit. Memes are created by users. They are OC. Screenshots are reposts by design. I was hoping Lemmy would be a better place than what reddit had become

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can hope. But in the end it’s the people who post that will decide. I think we should continue to allow the people and culture of the sub to define itself, instead of making mandates

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we do that, the culture will be defined by people who don't care about the culture.

A proper discussion followed by polls to establish rules would greatly increase the content quality now that lemmy is moving towards mainstream.

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Are users not the ones who care about the culture?

[–] amio@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

On Reddit, wasn't that kind of thing mostly just relegated to other subs? Similarly to other whatever-th degree meta jokes. Could be a thing here too.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I just downvote any uncropped screenshot and ignore the content at this point. Have people really gotten too stupid to crop?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are in the social media age... yes, people really gotten too stupid for those kinds of things. Same with taking photos of screens instead of making a screenshot.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can at least understand taking photos of the screen because console manufacturers go out of their way to make it difficult to take a screenshot and get it on your phone.

But cropping literally takes 10 seconds. Or 5 minutes if you're doing it for the first time and don't have an app that can crop.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You dont need an app. Both Apple's iPhones and Samsung's Galaxy Phones have built in photo editor. Not sure about other brands.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are stock apps, but they are usually incredibly bloated. Samsungs' wants you to log in to use it and last time I checked, it literally put ads in between your images.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um, no I don't have any ads. Typically you get ads if you have a low end device or if it's from a carrier, the carrier will put bloat. But I got my Galaxy S23 unlocked from BestBuy and I don't have any ads or carrier stuff, and the Samsung bloat isn't even that bad, most of them can be uninstalled. The photo editor is literally within the gallery app, you just tap the little pen icon that shows up when you tap on an image. I don't know why you have ads or require a Samsung account, neither apply to me.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was an unlocked samsung phone as well, an S9 to be specific. All the bloat on there is from samsung themselves and it frequently sent samsung ads as notifications (which couldn't be disabled) and had a constant notification telling the user to sign into their samsung account (which couldn't be dismissed or disabled).

The gallery app had ads between the images, that's what I meant.

If that isn't bad bloat, I don't know what is.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Um... I think you might have malware on your phone. I've literally never seen an actual ad inside a default gallery app in any smartphone I ever had, including budget phones. I did a search on Galaxy S9 and anything about ads but all I could find is people finding out their phone is infected from malware after being advised to scan their phone by commenters. Can you post an image of the ad?

Also you might wanna run a malware scan. Malwarebytes is said to be reputable.

Edit: Do you used pirated apps? No judgement, just curious. Pirated apps are one of the common ways to get infected.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The phone showed ad notifications right out of the box and got software updates without issues, so definitely no malware.

Not sure when the gallery thing started but it was definitely the samsung app (which is a system app so you can't do anything to it without root).

The phone is gone now because it got slower over time until it became unusable. Androbench showed that the eMMC was perfectly fine, so that was due to updates.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would I know how to crop if I'm not a farmer?

/s

If you share a cropped meme, are you a sharecropper?

[–] kihasu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not think people became stupid, but it so easy to post stuff that even the technologically iliterate can now post. Also many people underestimate the amount of people acessing media on their phone. Maybe i am too old to know all options, but i feel like a phone is not the right tool to produce any quality content.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely takes time and effort

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say lazy more than stupid

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

It's kinda hard on mobile

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info and the proposal. I see communities get organized and talk to each other. I gives hope for a better fediverse

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This sub needs more mods, I don't want to make this decision by myself. At the moment it seems like not everyone agrees with you.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we should chat and try to find someone.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't really care either way about the outcome, but thank you for your honesty and transparency here. I think it's important that the community chooses their rule changes instead of a few mods. Maybe we could have a vote?

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Coming out of the cave to point the numbers under the post. Seems that a clear majority has emerged from a honest discussion.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean a vote on who will be a new mod?

Interestingly enough this sublemmy never has any reports etc, y'all really are behaving very well.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant vote on the rule change.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aaaaah, I see!

The screenshots have stopped anyways, so it's no longer relevant. You agree?

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like we've moved on to old memes instead!

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I love the energy that the meme subs on lemmy have developed.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yes Understandable I agree, that's why I opened the conversation

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, @Number358@lemmy.world suggested I added brackets to the title. Are there guidelines about title edition?

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

No guidelines, just do it :)

[–] GottaChangeMyName@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does one make more moderators?

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I and the lemmy.ml server admins can appoint them. And @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml, the other mod can also of course.

[–] chiwiu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take the chance now to stablish rules for screenshots AND not allowing comics at the same time (I understand that it's what you meant by "cartoons", right?)

There is a community already for the latter here: !comics@lemmy.ml and if people like screenshots so much they can already create their own, as you said (def wont be joining that one myself 😅)

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It seems that we need more mods in this commu