145
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 84 points 1 year ago

the process of the people being killed also was pretty quick

Have this fucker never watch a movie about the holocaust in their life????

hitlers killings of non-aryans would have eventually resulted in racism ending

??????????

This person should be shoot dead

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's definitely one way to end racism, y'know ending all other races

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

They have such a baby-brained understanding of fascism. Like fascists will find another thing to discriminate against because they need that to justify their inability to function and a target to rally against

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

hitlers killings of non-aryans would have eventually resulted in racism ending

hitler-detector melting down from that take

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Odds that this person is also really worried about the possibility that AI might kill everyone on Earth as a result of a misinterpretation of something like "decrease the murder rate?" I'd guess high.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] uralsolo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

Hitlers killing of people that are non aryan would have eventually resulted in the end of racism

This has to be a bit.

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Fascism will eat itself. The in and out groups weren't scientifically determined, but out groups were created to enact violence against them.

[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago
[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago
[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is like probably what 30% of public high school students in the US learn in their history class from whatever athletics coach they get to teach this class.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

i used to think they were just skimping on paying a history teacher, but now I think they choose the coach because they're most likely to be reactionary

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

In all seriousness, at least back in the 90s we were still tip-toeing around the USSR in history classes because all the books were written in the 70s and 80s, when "The Fall of the Soviet Union" was a wet dream to the West rather than a presumed inevitability. We just kinda ended our history textbooks at WW2, for the most part. Everything after the 1940s was college level material that didn't get touched.

Far more often, what you'd get in history class was these revanchist takes on the American Revolution and the Civil War. These were the topics that history classes loved to fixate on. You'd spend a full semester dissecting a laundry list of Founding Fathers, all of whom got one flavor of hagiography or another. Then the Civil War got both-sides to the point where even die-hard wanna-be Confederates were rolling their eyes.

I will say that my AP class material was focused primarily on the Reconstruction and dawn of the Industrial Revolution, and it was surprisingly good. Didn't hurt that my senior level history teacher was a heavyweight in the Texas teacher's union and took all this shit fairly seriously. But she was still very reticent of the minefield labor politics was for a bunch of Houston suburbs failkids. So we got a lot of winks and nudges toward additional readings, without her ever coming out and ringing the "Union Strong" dinner bell.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

making people work till theyre dead

citation needed for Stalin, but slave labor without regard for deaths was a documented part of the Nazi war machine

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In German the phrase for it is "Vernichtung durch Arbeit" (destruction through work) and its enactment can be found in official Nazi documents. The whole post that OP links is Holocaust denial and ought to be punished.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stalin made people work until they were well into their mid-60s, which was a real tragedy given that life expectancy in pre-Soviet Russia was the early-30s. Dude forced you to work two full lifetimes! That's where Communism gets you.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

The Nazis ending racism by genociding every other race has got to be the most brain melting thing I've ever read. I gotta go lay down.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Nazism, like all forms of fascism, falls apart without an enemy. Even if they managed to kill all the Jews and Slavs, people would still be murdered on the suspicion of being Jews and Slavs for as long as Nazis are in power.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

i've long held that if fascists couldn't designate a racial or national enemy, they'd play up the distinction between men and women as their primary struggle. And if they couldn't do that they'd go after certain age groups. They'd find something.

i think that's part of the reason fascists in America have latched so heavily onto being anti-LGBTQ. They're slowly realizing that open racism is broadly unpopular, so they're flailing about trying to coherently designate a different enemy. What they fail to realize is unspoken racism is perfectly permitted in America, but they can't help themselves. They have to say the quiet part.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] regul@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

CW: terrible Nazi shitsincerely hope this is just terrible sarcasm because Zyklon B takes at least 15 minutes to kill someone and the Nazis gauged when it was time to vent the room by the screams
Fuck Nazi apologia in all its forms

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Also the victims were being slowly starved up to that point over the course of months

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Even then, there's the psychological torture of knowing you're next and it's a matter of when. It was deliberately slow and cruel at every point because that's how hate works.

And pryor to that were forced to labor in work camps

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

this is undoubtedly a person that has no clue about that and simply supposes they would never be the one getting gassed.

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I think this person is actually a Nazi and might have a clue but tries to deny the crimes.

[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Now one negative aspect ofcourse was the extermination of people apart of the LGBT community

I can excuse genocidal anti Semitism, racism, and antiziganism, but I draw the line at genocidal homophobia

load more comments (5 replies)
[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

The work camps in Nazi Germany had the explicit goal, discussed in letters of the people running them, of bringing the interned to their "natural end", i.e. work them to death, and many people were indeed killed this way.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago
[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

The readings are off the charts!

[-] iie@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This reads like a child who has been talking to a nazi recruiter

or a nazi recruiter trying to appeal to children

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

yeah these arguments are so fucking unconvincing if you have even a middle schooler's understanding of history. i suppose it says something about the state of LGBTQ rights that fashy teens will still concede that mass murdering queer people was Not It Chief.

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

i can smell this person's scout regiment jacket from here

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago
[-] worker_bear@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hitlers killing of people who were non aryan would have eventually resulted in racism ending

jesse-wtf

this has to be a bit

The increased whitewashing of nazis and vilification of the left these past couple of years is disturbing.

[-] hamid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

This is a pretty standard American analysis judging by my experience on the fediverse

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hitler was also against religion

Average Sam Harris/Christopher Hitchens enjoyer.

so-true "At least he didn't believe in a freaking sky wizard!"

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Say what you will about Hitler, but that man really put a new spin on sobriety when he gave up pork chops and stogies for a "Scarface"'s worth of methamphetamine.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

This person needs to be beaten with a bat, until dead.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Dog shit stupidity meets intense racism, you hate to see it.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 31 points 1 year ago

Genociding all but one race is certainly ONE way to end racism I suppose

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

That's the neat part about fascist racism, it doesn't end there and never will.

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

They'd just keep at it until there's one guy left, who then looks in the mirror one day and blows his own brains out

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

The "white" race is completely made up though. Anyone can be part of or not part of it whenever it is convenient.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] worker_bear@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

he was against smoking drinking and violence against animals

if you are below the age of 18 you are immediately going in a locker dude

if you are above 18 you are going in a :pit:

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago
[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

"The Nazis, famously, didn't work their slave labourers to the bone and people weren't dying in concentration camps from beatings, starvation, and the denial of medical care but instead the only deaths that occurred were quick and clean!!"

The very notion that you can "solve" racism via extermination is laughable and it has no material basis.

You'd have an easier job convincing me that the Nazi war machine was going to spool down voluntarily after a successful WWII effort and that this would establish a long-running era of peace globally than you would arguing that the Nazi extermination machine was going to be put into disuse by somehow fixing racism.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

love to hear how getting killed via gas in the shower was "quick and clean", yes indeed. nothing quite like being scared shitless, not knowing if today you get gas or water.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly Hitler wasnt even that bad . he was against smoking, drinking and violence against animals [end of sentence]

This is so funny lol

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 25 Sep 2023
145 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15891 readers
595 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS