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Most people? No, definitely not. Most Americans get vaccinated. More people than you would hope? Yeah, absolutely.
There's so many people here who have crazy views on health and wellness generally. Juice cleanses. Chiropractic. Homeopathy. Fad diets. Faith healing. I think some of it is because people can't afford real healthcare, but most of it is anti-intellectualism and propaganda.
Most of the western world have free healthcare. But this is an America view so I understand.
A friend of mine went to hospital like 5 times to check out his belly with various advanced machines and the final bill was equivalent to like 50 dollars. The taxi rides to the hospital cost him more than that. :)
I think its amazing.
Having lived next to them for my whole life; For Americans if it sounds too stupid to be true it’s probably true
United States citizens have reasons not to trust their government with their health. Trust takes a lot time to build, and recent administrations haven't been building it.
...therefore vaccines cause autism?
That's part of the explanation for these people.
MIL100% believes this. Her son was normal until about 3 and then developed seizures and is now brain damage. She blames vaccines and it doesn't help a few other kids in area had similar experiences. She thinks there was a bad batch distribution.
Here's the funny thing, if that had actually happened (bad batch of a vaccine hurt kids) there is an entire Vaccine Injury Fund that will pay out to her. Medical providers have been reporting vaccine injuries for as long as we've had vaccines and there's lots of very real side effects. However, it's extremely difficult to get the payout because you have to prove the vaccine caused the injury and provide evidence that batches were the same. It's probably gone with DOGE but the vaccine manufacturers did pay in to the fund so the money is there and always has been if people can provide their allegations.
Go to know. I dk if she had the fight in her to go after it. Wonder if a lawyer would investigate for her.
But you also need to be careful how you talk about this because there is always some who seize on the real risk of issues without the perspective of the likelihood being minuscule compared tot he disease it prevents.
While there is some risk of the measles vaccination, it pales before the much bigger risk, the much higher harm of a measles epidemic. And we need a high percentage of people vaccinated to prevent that epidemic to protect all of us, including vulnerable segments of the population who can’t be immunized
Depends on which vaccine. There are two agencies, there is the VICP and the CICP. The VICP only covers a short list of vaccines that doesn't include COVID. (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines). COVID vax is covered by the CICP and doesn't pay anything out for pain and suffering, only your medical bills for what your insurance didn't cover from treatment.
At a job in Silicon Valley I had a boss who had an autistic child and my boss told me directly that when they vaccinated their child, the child's behavior changed, and caused autism.
I have other friends in SV who are huge vaccine skeptics.
So, yes, even in deep blue areas there are anti-vax people. There are also Trump flag flying people in SV too.
Let me guess, the child was at the age where observable signs and behaviors start to appear and it lined up with their vaccine schedule?
That's the correlation.
For the parents, their world turned upside down, and Andrew Wakefield gave them someone/thing to (incorrectly) blame.
A thousand deaths aren't enough for Andrew Wakefield. (Paraphrase quote from Frank Herbert's Dune.)
Disclaimer: l'll never illegally harm Andrew Wakefield. But if some authorized entity convicted him to execution and raffled off the right to throw the switch, I would buy one ticket for each person I've lost.
It’s all too real even today, however that might not be the cause of current measles outbreaks.
Measles was eradicated from the US years ago, thanks to high vaccination rates. However that means most people have never seen measles so there is a fringe belief that it’s not harmful or the vaccination is more harmful, and vaccination rates have been declining to the point we could get a larger epidemic.
We do have localized measles outbreaks many years but they’ve usually been attributed to a new infection from overseas and a very local community insufficiently vaccinated. Sometimes the population is from places where they’re not vaccinated, sometimes it’s a vulnerable population. While yes, it can also be from fringe anti-vax groups, I really think the bigger fear is whether those fringe groups open a path to much wider outbreaks or epidemics.
They sure do. It's so dumb.
The belief is real (but the claim is not).
A doctor claimed a certain ingredient in vaccines was causing autism, while also trying to sell his own version without that ingredient. A massive conflict of interest and he lost his medical licence over it.
But damage was done and people freaked out over it. In fact, the ingredient was removed in order to alleviate peoples concerns but by that point the idea vaccines=autism had taken off and it was hard to stop that spread of misinformation. Especially since the dude doubled down on the stance.
Andrew Wakefield, Jenny McCarthy, and RFK Jr. have so caused so much needless death and suffering. Fucking monsters.
Yes, people truly believe this. It seems obviously bonkers to you and I, because we have at least average critical thinking skills. The people who believe these things have way below average critical thinking skills. And there A LOT of these people. Just look at your normal bell curve chart.
If these people were around 50 yrs ago we'd still have polio and smallpox.
No there's really people that stupid. It's tragic.
And these fuckfaces act like they’re enlightened.
Your friend is not joking. There's an epidemic of disinformation washing across the USA.
And thanks to the disinformation around vaccines, there are also several other types epidemics breaking out...
Let's put it this way, the new FBI director sells supplements to make you immune from "vaccine shedding", AKA being around vaxxed people.
Not American, but at least a few do. And they're exporting it. My old English teacher back when I lived in the Dominican Republic was an American missionary who taught to fund her religious activities. Guess what beliefs about science and politics she was spreading along with her beliefs about baptism of the spirit?
It’s so bad Texas currently has a measles outbreak.
People heard about the original, now discredited study, which came out around the time autism diagnosises were increasing. People then either didn't hear or chose not to believe that the OG study was discredited.
