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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow. What a platform!

I'm a PC and I won't dig up a landfill to bring justice to murdered women. VOTE FOR ME!

Conservatives: nods head slowly a very well thought out and compelling argument! Here's my vote!

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have anything to do about murdered women, digging up possible victims or even justice

It has everything to do with legitimizing hate and normalizing racist ideals ... these aren't ads to let people know what she doesn't want to do ... it's an advertising campaign announcing to every right and far-right leaning moron out there that their ideology is accepted and can be promoted. It's a hate filled campaign to all right wing followers that it's ok to delegitmize minorities and dismiss them because they don't matter.

It's a campaign for hate ... and everyone who allows it to just happen and continue is part of the problem.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Over the summer, Stefanson’s PC government faced a wave of protests in Winnipeg, later spreading across the country and even receiving international attention, over its refusal to search Winnipeg’s landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran — two Indigenous women believed to be victims of an alleged serial killer charged with their murders last year.

Winnipeg’s police chief previously stated that investigators believe their remains are at a local landfill where the body of another woman, believed murdered by the same alleged serial killer, was recovered last summer.

What a piece of shit. But indigenous people aren't people to conservatives, of course.

[-] Rocket@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once upon a time they said that automation would free up more leisure time for people to enjoy.

The time was freed up, but apparently people decided to use that time to create nonsensical advertisements instead.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

She's down by 11 points?

I guess her philosophy is that if you're going to go down you might as well go down in flames.

[-] JesseoftheNorth@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Canadians are racist AF towards indigenous folk. They fucking hate us, and take every opportunity to make our lives worse.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Especially in Manitoba and Saskatchewan where my god the racism ratchets up to 11.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Canadians are racist AF towards indigenous folk. They fucking hate us, and take every opportunity to make our lives worse.

You fucked up the punctuation there, and your wording is a bit off. Let me fix that for you:

Canadians are racist AF.

There. That pretty much fixes everything.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Like, I get the argument against the project. The chance of finding anything to help bring the killer to justice is roughly zero. The women will still be just as dead, and may not even be found. But still, peace-of-mind is not valueless... but how many millions will we pay for that?

But regardless of the arguments about this: Putting out ads on the subject is absolutely moronic.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Did I read that correctly? What the fuck is going on up there???

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It is just a shout out to all the racists and white supremacists that she is their candidate.

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

So why are the people of Winnipeg not protesting and picketing the landfill?

If those horrible people don’t want to find those bodies then make living in the city uncomfortable until they do.

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

So why are the people of Winnipeg not protesting and picketing the landfill?

Some people are: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/brady-landfill-protest-winnipeg-flag-1.6908856

As for those that aren't protesting:
The criminal lawyers in I know from Winnipeg believe that justice will be served and Skibicki will be convicted of the murders of these women, even without the bodies being found. So spending a quarter of the provincial justice budget on one case that is already likely to be won (or roughly 30 times the amount spent on an average homicide, or 6 times the amount the budgeted for "Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations" for the whole year), probably just isn't going to happen. I know that it's brutal to say, but it's just not going to happen.

But there is a huge difference between looking at the costs and understanding that it won't happen, and spending money advertising how proud you are that you're not going to do it.

https://www.gov.mb.ca/budget2022/summary-budget-and-financial-updates.html
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2015-r022/index-en.aspx

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

If it were the bodies of affluent and or white people there would never have been a question: the bodies would be recovered.

This is just more anti-indigenous racism from Canada.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's the part that confuses me in these "it's too expensive"-style responses. We have PLENTY of evidence that NO COST IS SPARED in recovering bodies of white folk (as long as they're not sex workers, I mean). But because these are natives, meh. It's too expensive.

I get more ashamed of my passport with each passing year.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know is there a case where they have searched a landfill for people who are not native? Like having no idea where the body is and just blindly searching like this is?

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Canada just sent s+r teams to the bottom of the north Atlantic to find 5 rich adventure tourists....

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

A landfill specifically I can't think of off-hand (though I don't doubt they exist), but I know for a fact (because I participated in them) that huge searches of large areas of rough wilderness have been searched for white chicks gone missing and presumed dead.

[-] zesty@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Those are rescue operations. In those cases even if they are 'presumed dead' there is a chance of recovery.

Searching the landfill for long dead bodies is not a rescue operation. These are very different scenarios.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] zesty@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 year ago

White chicks like Christine Mustafa and a 57 year old man, got it.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh for fuck's sake!

I'm showing that searching landfills isn't unusual you utter fucking cretin! Grow the fuck up and just admit you were WRONG on whether or not this was a common thing or not, you dimwitted twatwaffle!

[-] zesty@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

It should be unusual. It's dangerous and it doesn't make sense to risk lives to recover a body. maybe if it was super recent, you had an idea where the body was AND it would be very likely to lead to stopping a mass murderer or something. Certainly not for 'closure' or 'peace of mind'.

But don't pretend you aren't moving the goalposts from 'they would only search if it was a white chick' either.

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