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Resist: It's Time

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We are still in this together, but "this" is going to be real different in the very near future. This demands a different kind of "we."

The French Resistance during Nazi occupation played important roles delivering downed Allied airmen back to safety, supplying military intelligence, and acts of sabotage.

The Underground Railroad is estimated to have brought 100,000 freedom seekers to safety between 1810 and 1850.

It's time.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 26 points 6 days ago

Since this post appears to be getting a fair amount of attention, here's a quick reminder:

  • Do not gatekeep resistance

All efforts, large and small, are appropriate and necessary, and we're not going to see any real change for a very long time.


[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Anyone think these scattered recent attempts at protest might be astroturfed by the right and the listed website might be a trap to create a mailing list of targets for the right to monitor?

Need clarity on organizers and money behind these protests and if any established groups like DSA, Indivisible, ETC. are attached.

Edit: A bit more potentially from USA Today. So next question is if anyone knows Kay Evert directly and can speak to their legitimacy in the space? Trust, but verify - We don't need to fight within our own movement, but we also don't need to follow anyone blindly.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Pretty sure DSA isn't involved, my local chapter also had the same concerns as it's not super clear who is organizing it.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://fiftyfifty.one/ is from r/50501 on reddit.

Of course, everything has risk, but I don't personally find that group to be problematic.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Respectfully, your comment continues to say nothing about who is behind it and where the money comes from... WHAT group of people don't you find to be problematic, and based on what? Who are the people that you don't have a problem with?

You just linked a subreddit... on Lemmy?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago

50501 successfully organized the 50 state capitol protests the other day, and those got at least some news coverage. That was a good thing. If attending an event is unsuitable for you, there are other ways to resist. Me, I'm certainly already on more than one list, so being associated with a protest doesn't change anything.

By comparison, I did some looking into a group called "American Opposition," and my feeling about that is that it's one small potatoes movie and TV actor trying to pull some sort of hustle.

In any event, I don't believe you have to identify yourself to show up at a protest.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago

From the article you linked in your edit:

The 50501 moderators also partnered with Political Revolution, a PAC and volunteer-only activist organization founded out of the conclusion of Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign in 2016.

The 50501 movement and Political Revolution said in a joint press release they are calling for the removal or resignation of President Donald Trump, investigations into his administration appointees including Elon Musk, the repeal of "oppressive" executive orders and the restoration of diversity, equity and inclusion frameworks.

https://pol-rev.com/

They've been around since 2017. There's surely a bunch more information about them than about 50501, and they're "vouching" for 50501.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (7 children)

How can you be protecting democracy when democracy chose Trump to lead it? There was an election and you lost.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let's say for the sake of argument that the 2024 election was 100% fair, completely above board, completely absent of any foreign influence.

HE'S FUCKING THE CONSTITUTION LIKE A FUCKING FLESHLIGHT!

Just because he was elected, it doesn't make what he's doing right. The maddening thing is, if he was a Democrat, we'd still be protesting but because he's Republican, the right is completely okay with it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's cause "the constitution" is just a slavermasters pact. This is what it was designed for. Stop worshiping dead parchment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the constitution that was famously changed to include such clauses as "no more slavery" and "civil rights for all" is just a slavemasters pack. You're so clearly right and not just a contrarian fuckwit.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 days ago

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, "

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;"

Aside from being incorrect in the details, the rules as written don't matter as much as the rules as enforced. The US constitution is not producing good results for many people.

Also trump isn't eligible under the 14th amendment for the whole insurrection thing.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 25 points 6 days ago

Yes, he's democratically elected. He also is violating the Constitution of the United States in multiple ways. Even if he were elected with a legitimate 99% of the popular vote, he should still be protested, impeached, and removed from office.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

He was democratically elected through voter suppression. The more people that vote, the worse the GOP performs.

Overall voter turnout was 63.7%. Voter turnout in states where Trump won was 63.4% Voter turnout in states where Harris won was 66.4%. States with the lowest turnout included Hawaii, Texas , West Virgina, Arkansas, and Oklahoma - almost all red states.

Texas is my favorite example of voter suppression. Texas should be a swing state. The GOP never held a majority in the Texas legislature until 2002. In 2003, they went all-in on redistricting, flipping Texas from a majority-Democrat Congressional delegation to 2/3 Republican between 2002 and 2004, with the dems never recovering. They also have laws written specifically to make it harder to vote in Houston, since it's 20% black and reliably votes blue.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I heard this argument when Berlusconi was Italy's PM. It just shows a deep ignorance of the checks and balances of every Western democracy.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

in no small part due to Republucan run states suppressing the vote.

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[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I still think he cheated, and even if he didn't, he is breaking the law.

The people voted to drive on the street, the president is driving on the sidewalk.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Protest you say?

Remember when they beat the shit out of protesters, shot or jailed them and slapped insane charges on them? Simply because they protested genocide? O how we miss those days, such a democracy it was.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Well when shit eventually boils over, at least we can point back and say, "we tried to ask nicely."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

typography note: you should say "not" and follow with strikethrough. they both do the same thing and together they imply the opposite, like you wanted to say "not we the billionaires" and changed your mind. now the message says "we the people not".

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