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DENVER (AP) — The Colorado judge overseeing the first significant lawsuit to bar former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 presidential ballot on Friday issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation in the case, saying the safety of those involved — including herself and her staff — was necessary as the groundbreaking litigation moves forward.

“I 100% understand everybody’s concerns for the parties, the lawyers, and frankly myself and my staff based on what we’ve seen in other cases,” District Judge Sarah B. Wallace said as she agreed to the protective order.

The order prohibits parties in the case from making threatening or intimidating statements. Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump in the case, opposed it. He said a protective order was unnecessary because threats and intimidation already are prohibited by law.

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[–] zuhayr@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, threats and intimation is otherwise Okay???

[–] MCk3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Per the article:

Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump in the case, opposed it. He said a protective order was unnecessary because threats and intimidation already are prohibited by law.

And then they don’t explain further

We should make it illegal to do crimes

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So this is the judge saying "1... 2... 2.5..." instead of just throwing his fat ass in jail already.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are saying, in no uncertain terms, that certain behavior is not allowed.

For when he does it anyway. So they Court can just skip the "I didn't knowwwww!" defense and punish him.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The quote I was responding to is from his lawyer saying it's already illegal. They're admitting that they already know.

two and 3/4… two and 7/8… two and 9/10…

Normally there are warnings. This is their warning.

[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question, though, is, "Will it be enforced?"

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trumps violent group of degenerates certainly will do anything to protect Trump from justice.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In their world, Trump won, their party did things to secure elections, now that surely Trump will win, the Democrats are creating "trumped up" charges to prevent him from even running and trying to throw him in jail.

... I can understand why someone who sees the world that way would be very very angry about this. It's not factually accurate, but I understand the perspective.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I can’t understand being that stupid.

I refuse to indulge the perspective.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't normalize this weaponized idiocy. They're violent assclowns and mindless, frothing cultists with nothing higher on their list of priorities than feeding their greed. No tolerance necessary.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Duhamizing people, even those that are incorrect, is corrosive to a functional society.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Tell that to your Ukrainian neighbor, see how far that gets you.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I certainly do not care about what people who ignore facts, truth and laws “believe” I dismiss their absurd falsehoods as do the courts.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Party of "law and order" will think of this is a political move rather then a criminal actually facing penalties for commiting numerous serious crimes he's been indicted with in court.

[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Law and order for thee but not for me. Just look at what the GOP is doing with the electoral maps in Ohio and the SC justice in WI. They don't believe in law and order they believe everyone should obey them abd be ruled by them anything else is seen as illegitimate to them.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


DENVER (AP) — The Colorado judge overseeing the first significant lawsuit to bar former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 presidential ballot on Friday issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation in the case, saying the safety of those involved — including herself and her staff — was necessary as the groundbreaking litigation moves forward.

“I 100% understand everybody’s concerns for the parties, the lawyers, and frankly myself and my staff based on what we’ve seen in other cases,” District Judge Sarah B. Wallace said as she agreed to the protective order.

It was sought by lawyers for the liberal group Citizens For Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which is seeking to disqualify Trump from the ballot under a rarely used Civil War-era clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Dozens of lawsuits have been filed around the country seeking to disqualify Trump from the 2024 ballot based on the 14th Amendment clause barring anyone who swore an oath to the Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection” against it from running for office.

Wallace has set an Oct. 30 hearing to discuss whether Trump needs to be removed under Colorado law prohibiting candidates who don’t meet qualifications for higher office from appearing on ballots.

He cited federal prosecutor Jack Smith last week seeking a gag order against Trump for threats made in his prosecution of the former president for trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.


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