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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 hours ago

Wait until dude learns about the long and brutal history of colonization...

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 91 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So the cartels, who profit directly from the high demand of drugs by Americans, were given weapons, by Americans, to meet that demand of drugs. They then essentially hijacked the mexican government with those guns and violence in order to keep their drug supply available to Americans, meanwhile destroying hope for peaceful life for many many towns and people in mexico. But it's the Mexicans trying to escape those problems, once again created by demand in the US, who are the problem?

How very fucking American.

You know who doesn't have a fentanyl problem? Mexico. They're not the ones creating demand.

I'm simplifying, I know, but I'm very fucking tired of Mexicans and South Americans being blamed as if the US hadn't fucked the entire country and almost the entire South American continent over for the last 50 years.

I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here but fuck man I'm just tired.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

The exact plan is to make everyone too tired to understand they're being played against each other.

The average American lives nearly identical lives and has nearly identical axioms, wants and feelings as the average Mexican, the average South American, the average Canadian, etc. The only real differences are superficial and aesthetic, and if we all woke up with amnesia tomorrow, and the borders were erased from maps, we would probably all just intermix and form a whole new world as we discover each other's foods, customs, ideas and desires without being afraid of "losing our cultures" or any of the manufactured fears the powers have instilled in us about the "other."

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 4 hours ago

You do know that US intelligence agencies and military have been heavily involved in organizing the global drug trade, including smuggling drugs like Heroin and Cocaine into the US?

It has always been a tool of power. This is why Reagans wife told kids to "just say no to drugs" in a concerned voice, while her Husband organized tonnes and tonnes of Cocaine to be smuggled into the US to finance a fascist terrorist organization overthrowing democratically elected governments and killing tens of thousands of civilians. Oh and he used part of the profits to sell weapons into a war zone against US legislation and explicit decision of congress, so more brown people are being murdered.

Further fun fact, Mexican Cartels ended up with military assault rifles from the German manufacturer Heckler&Koch, circumventing export bans. So it is not just the US that likes to join in on it.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/21/696561255/heckler-koch-fined-4-2-million-over-assault-rifle-sales-in-mexico

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 40 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah and not just guns that are smuggled abroad from the US. Most illegal guns in Europe come from former wars, stolen out of abandoned and badly secured depots. The balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. And once the war in Ukraine is over many unused weapons will flow into the European criminal circuit.

The entire Military Industrial Complex is making the world more dangerous even during peace time.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 152 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wrong. I don't know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

That's 100% more than OP said! Absolutely crazy, how could they do this?

[–] ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

~~Even easier and faster; a quick look at google maps presents a list, their locations, hours of operation....~~ Most of these are airsoft stores apparently.

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All but the first one are airsoft gun stores.

[–] ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

RIP me, confirmation bias sucks...

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 315 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren't journalism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You really shouldn't be spending your money on either

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

nah. You should probably buy a gun now if you aren't a danger to yourself.

EDIT: Assuming you are in the US or its neighbours.

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[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago

Go to the US, buy a gun at a gun show, put it in your trunk and drive back. Done in 1 day. Holy shit

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Buckle up because guess what, George W Bush implemented the gun smuggling into Mexico with a plan called "Fast and Furious"

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm glad this got linked. It's definitely the gun version of "you're not fighting the predator by buying more cats... you're just feeding it cats."

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 23 hours ago

They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.

But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military's corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs "to track" and then surprise! "lost" them. They get em from multiple sources.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Most places, if not all places there's a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.

[–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean? The popular image is of the Somali militias using Soviet-designed weapons. AKs and such

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

USA is an arms dealer cosplaying as a country.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 99 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something like 85% of guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled from the US

[–] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago

Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Reminder that as of 2025, the US is the only country with more privately owned guns than people, at 120.5 guns per 100 people... The 2nd highest is the Falkland Islands at 62.1 guns per 100 people.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

lol git gud Falkland Islands

But, seriously, that's not great.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Do the Falklands count as a country? I'm not sure what the situation is there.

Also, New Zealand is pretty high up on the list.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Yesn't. They are self-governing but that's very limited. Most of the important stuff (foreign relations, defense, ...) is handled by the UK.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure if I'd really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms........

Kinda hard to claim you've been "radicalized" by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Too fast, too furious...

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

It's that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don't question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

And the way the law is structured, that's in their best interest.

If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don't have to ask any other questions as a "private seller" and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can't own a gun, the less questions the better.

The "private sale" loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

Edit:

It also incentives those sales.

No gun store will pay as much as someone who can't buy from a gun store.

So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We had to arm the drugs in the War on Drugs to make it a real fight.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Smuggled? The DEA was shipping them direct at one point.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the curious.

Not literally shipping them, but setting up a sting that never stung. Ironically to stop the flow of illegal guns.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why need more gun store when the biggest gun store in the world is right above you? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe per city? I know there's one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago

It's by design.
A lot of effort went into it and it's a lot of effort to maintain such systems. You need PR along with movie studios, politicians on local, country, and global levels, lobbyists, para-gov agencies (like police unions), judges, etc. It's a business full of people that do what they can to advance it.

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