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This is the very essence of the difference that should exist between a President and a King. From Federalist 69:

The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law. The person of the king of Great Britain is sacred and inviolable; there is no constitutional tribunal to which he is amenable; no punishment to which he can be subjected without involving the crisis of a national revolution. In this delicate and important circumstance of personal responsibility, the President of Confederated America would stand upon no better ground than a governor of New York, and upon worse ground than the governors of Maryland and Delaware.

The failure of the Republican party to support this kind of check on Presidential power is why we're having this crisis now.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 46 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal"

-- Richard Nixon, 1977.

You've had 47 years to do something about this, to be able to hold your leaders accountable, and apparently it wasn't worth the effort.

I guess the upside is you won't have to worry about all that wasteful election spending any more. 👍

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 19 hours ago

You don't understand (or maybe you do but aren't saying it). The Nixon scandal is what started the modern shitshow as we know it. Nixon's supporters would be royally pissed that there was no specific media apparatus to fully support Nixon and his shit. They would go on to fight to repeal the fairness doctrine and to start Fox News and the modern propaganda media as we know it.

BTW, a few years ago (during Trump's first administration or a bit after) they even SAID 'when the president does it , it isn't not illegal' or some slight word difference as a way of signalling their ultimate victory in trying to do what they wanted to have happened during Nixon's scandals.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Oh, they’ll still allow that spending to show how many votes he gets next time. Like the other dictators do.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 51 points 22 hours ago

Once again, to no-one's surprise. Trump loudly claimed he would do this long ago

Choose a felon as President, expect him to commit crimes... enjoy

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, the constitution never said the supreme court has the power of judivial review, the supreme court at the time just grabbed the power, and congress at the time just went along with it. The supreme court only held on to the power because of "norms and traditions". Today's congress could simply just pass a resolution declaring the supreme court has no such power, and all that 200+ years of "norms and traditions" is gone. And all the law enforcement, national guard, and military people would just be like "seems legit" and go along with everything trump decrees.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 5 points 16 hours ago

yeah but this isn't about judicial review

[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 24 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Dear Americans, where are your protests?

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 33 points 20 hours ago

There's protests in every state. The media is just ignoring them.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

the mainstream news isn’t covering them… they also edited out people booing trump at the super bowl and edited in cheers

[–] a_g_dizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Do you have a link for the Superbowl edits?

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 8 points 21 hours ago

There are more people on the streets when a new iphone is released

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago

You need more disruptive protests.

Americans have been trained to clutch their pearls but that disrupting commerce with protests is wrong and that's exactly what we're seeing: complaints but no disruptive action so they are easily ignored.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 9 points 19 hours ago

UNLESS they rule AGAINST Working Class Bailouts. THEN the Courts SHOULD be Listened to!

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

These are unamerican people.

[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

And people voted for this!! I feel like I'm in some fucking fever dream.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't the failure of the Republican party. This is their victory dance.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Seriously, this has been the Republican wet dream for decades.

[–] mRbLUE@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Groundwork for a coup by the sounds of it. When the next election is supposed to happen I wonder if he'll declare martial law due to some invented issue.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Groundwork for a coup by the sounds of it.

GROUNDWORK??!!

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago

~~Groundwork for~~ a coup by the sounds of it.

fixed it

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That fucking Lizard Peter Thiel fucking rebooted when asked about the popular support for Luigi. The mother fucker had not thought about what happens when we the people get tired of their shit and unite against them. They've spent so much time and money dividing us so they can take it all it never occurred that it might backfire.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That blubbering little weasel. “Y-y-you have to find another way.” I think was the line he used. We tried other ways. Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Luigi showed how to fight back with some effect.

[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thiel, Yarvin etc., are all so convinced of their own superiority that any actual challenge to their world view/tactics is completely unexpected. They can only comprehend doing violence to people who won't do anything about it. They get their rocks off over child murderers, and state sanctioned violence, but cry when the people they want to step on show and ounce of spine. It's pathetic.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago

There was a former employee of Elon Musk who said that when he stood up to Elon that one time and actually said that his ideas and style are terrible, he said that he never saw a man's face turn so white so fast, that Musk became super pale (even compared to his normal ultra-pale complexion) and that Musk's only response was to yell fuck you.

He had no concept whatsoever of anyone, much less someone working for him, to dare question him in any way.

[–] RedirectDeposit@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck these bastards

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago

It is written into their plan, not a surprise at all "ignore the courts".

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Time to use those guns you've been hoarding. Wasn't that the reason you're even allowed to have them?

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I add the following as evidence of premeditation / conspiracy:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets

“I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he [Vance] said. “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”

This is a description, essentially, of a coup.

“We are in a late republican period,” Vance said later, evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar. “If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild, and pretty far out there, and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”

“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”

Historical note: as far as I understand, president Jackson ignored the Supreme Court in a case of Georgia taking Cherokee lands. Since the state also ignored, the court failed to enforce its ruling.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But he said he'd only be a dictator for one day! Are you saying that's not how dictatorships work?!

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This is the step where the cart goes over the top of the hill, you're not coming back if this starts.

Hard to hear, but if goes forward, this does signal that it's breaking windows time. We all have a Luigi line, start really considering where yours is...

Especially if you're young, and they are doing this before you have been able to establish your own career or a family of your own, the rest of the world needs your strength and energy in these moments. Make no mistake, they are threatening you directly, they want to sell your future for a small profit added to the pile they are hoarding. Decide how hard you want to fight against that

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 202 points 1 day ago (15 children)

"Oh, shit, so you mean Biden could have just cancelled all that student debt anyway?"

"Well of course not, don't be stupid!"

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