Aren't the AfD only doing well in parts of East Germany, which had previously been under decades of Soviet rule?
This would be a more substantial counter-protest if it occurred in Leipzig or Dresden.
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It's young men voting for AfD, also in East Germany, i.e. unrelated to presence of "soviet rule" (DDR was an independent state, not part of the USSR). It's precisely the people being educated in the contemporary glorious western democracy that are turning to fascism, unsurprisingly not the ones who were drilled with antifascism since they were kids in the Freie Deutsche Jugend.
The rise of the far right is taking place all over western Europe and more so in the US, which currently has people in office doing the Sieg Heil and was, until last month, funding a genocide in an apartheid state. Blaming any of this on the Soviets (who actually defeated Nazism at tremendous cost) is ahistorical bullshit.
To claim that "Nazis are only relevant in the ex-GDPR" is part of what gave us this mess. Yes the AfD as a Party and other Fascist organizing still benefit from a lot of factors stemming from the History but fascist have a foothold and are gaining ground in the whole of Germany, as well as all other partys trolling to the right in "response" to the AfDs popularity. Friedrich Merz's latest escapades are just a new lowlight in the "mainstream" Partys attempt of claiming they can deport better.
So no I would say protest is substantial in every part of the country and 300000 people taking to the street in one Major city is nothing to sneeze at. (There are protest happing all over the country by the way).
They poll between 11 and 18% in bavaria from what I found. They're doing best in the east, but unfortunately the entire country has a significant part of the population voting for them.
A big thank you to every single person who showed up.
It has been a pleasure
That's a whole lot of people. Good on them!
America needs to learn from Germany. This example. Not the other one. We are currently FAFO on that one.
I agree. We won't see a huge response until people start getting hit by high prices for most things and they see items missing at their grocery stores. My guess is May/June - especially when the temperatures warm up across the U.S..
Came here to say the same thing. Time for Americans to step up and step out.
They have an economic system where they can take days off without losing their homes.
We don't. It's part of the plan. Can't have mass protests when you're about to lose the roof over your head.
You can't take days off for protests in Germany either.
Which is why protests are almost always held on the weekend to allow as many people as possible to join them, since significantly fewer people are working.
There's also public transport, healthcare, literally weeks of paid days off. They simply have better social resources than we do.
Sure, but I'd argue the largest aspect is cultural.
There's a reason France's protests are significantly more disruptive than those of other European nations, despite similar social resources and significantly worse police brutality.
I mean, the US has denser cities than most of Europe. It's not impossible to have large-scale demonstrations with hundreds of thousands of protestors in them.
I suspect it's just that most Americans aren't all that interested in changing the status quo for the better. The amount of apathy is perhaps only topped by Russia.
Public transportation is pathetic in the USA. I guarantee most of the 200,000 German protestors used the U-Bahn and S-Bahn.
the US has denser cities than most of Europe
Citation very needed
Ah, turns out I'm somewhat wrong. From what I can tell, the city centers in the US are denser but if you include the entire city Europe has generally denser cities.
Most US cities are significantly taller in the center due to skyscrapers and highrises. Most European cities are more "horizontal" in that regard by having many multi-story apartment blocks instead of a handful of highrises.
Most American cities aren't New York.
We have no real public transit, and many of our cities were urbanization following the invention of the automobile and are spread out to accommodate the automobile infrastructure and longer commutes.
Houston is our third most-populous city and has a metroplex with a Combined Statistical Area of over 12,000 square miles. That makes it roughly the size of the Netherlands, with around 40% the population of the Netherlands. Soon, Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio are going to form one giant metroplex that's 60,000 square miles.
If it helps, in 90 years Americans will have anti-fascist rallies...
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I was there, it was awesome. Bit short though and the audio equipment wasn't suitable for so many people.
Thank you for showing up!