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First it was buy Greenland, then make Canada a state. Now Donald Trump wants to own the Gaza Strip.

The President proposed on Tuesday that the U.S. should “own” the Gaza Strip, “level the site” and develop it, explicitly calling for displacing 2 million Palestinians from their homeland as the region’s leaders struggle to maintain a fragile ceasefire.

During a wide-ranging press conference with Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump laid out a sweeping plan for the U.S. to colonize Gaza and build resorts there. “I don’t want to be cute. I don’t want to be a wise guy, but—the Riviera of the Middle East. This could be so magnificent,” Trump said.

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[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Jared Kushner proposed this during the first term. This was planned.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Waking up to a public call for ethnic cleansing. This is going to be a long four years

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to the rest of your life.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago

Not to mention the past 100 years of palestinian life.

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It's all a front to get you to stop focusing on the domestic, covert invasion of the US government.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Stop this. It's not a "front", it's not a "smokescreen". This entire admin is the constant "I wants" from two men who haven't ever been told no in their entire lives: one who's the President and such a yes-man that he'll do whatever his little dictator friends ask him to, and the other who's a 59 year old manchild that is guided solely by "wow wouldn't that be cool".

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No. Please see the forest for the trees.

The US occupation of Gaza is currently not a possibility; the logistics of annexing a country on the other side of the world for financial gain is too complex for it to get traction. They are, however, using these wild claims like annexing Canada as well to muddy the waters and make journalism nigh-impossible. Then, when the media is sufficiently pre-occupied, they will push forth the real meat of Project 2025:

  1. Censoring anything they don't agree with
  2. Purging governmental regulation, and
  3. Suppressing citizenry via police-force

Then, when citizenry is oppressed and resources are conglomerated, the administration will focus it's sights on foreign targets. This is when they'll actually begin making serious threats of invasion.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

They’re annexing it in the capitalist sense not the government one. He’ll have cut a deal with them to carve up Gaza and sell it to the highest bidder with Trump getting the commission.

Those other things you mentioned aren’t being talked about any less either.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a front. They don't do smokescreens, they don't do distractions, they don't do sleight if hand. Every awful thing they do is because they want to do that awful thing. But what they have learned is that if you do enough awful things all at once, it makes it much more likely that you'll get away with at least some of them.

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that a front of they intend on committing one awful thing to commit a different awful thing?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, you're misunderstanding me.

They don't attack trans people to distract from ethnically cleansing Palestine, and they don't ethnically cleanse Palestine to distract from tearing apart the government. This isn't a Soderbergh movie; there's no grand unified plan where every action is actually secretly a play in a 4D chess game towards a different hidden goal.

They're attacking trans people because they want to attack trans people. They're ethnically cleansing Palestine because they want to ethnically cleanse Palestine. They're tearing apart the government because they want to tear apart the government.

These are all things that they very much want to do. And along the way they're going to collapse the US education system, destroy the welfare state, give tax breaks to billionaires, and plunder whatever money they can get for themselves because those are all things they want to do too. And they have the ability to do all of these things at once, so why wouldn't they? What benefit is there to slowly going through their list of targets one by one?

You don't need to conjure up a fantasy world where everything is part of some elaborate plan in order to explain this behaviour. It's just the most obvious thing for them to do in this situation. They're behaving completely rationally, given what their goals are.

The fact that the people opposing them refuse to care about more than one of these things at a time is just a happy accident for them. It's more comforting to believe that everything is a distraction except for the one thing that you really want to care about, but the reality isn't that easy. The reality is that no matter how much it sucks, someone has to care about every single one of these things, because they all matter. Doesn't always have to be the same someone, but it has to be someone. There is no feint to disguise the main attack; you are surrounded on all sides, and it is all main attack.

But the good news is that the only reason they can afford to be this reckless is because the people opposing them really haven't woken the fuck up what's happening yet (and the people who have woken up are feeling pretty demoralized by everyone else's apathy). That sounds bad, and it is, but ultimately it's good news because their victory is not a foregone conclusion. The American people have the ability to stop these criminals if they try. It's not too late.

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think we're just being pedantic about the word 'front' and are actually agreeing? I'm not saying they're playing 4D chess or that we're living in a movie, I'm only trying to make a point that they're attempting to overwhelm the media so that we don't know which attacks are feigned punches or immediate threats. Obviously they still want to punch the shit out of everything.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

so that we don't know which attacks are feigned punches or immediate threats.

No, we're not agreeing, because you still seem to be under the impression, at least from the part I just quoted, that any of this is a feint. It's not. They're doing bad things because they want to do bad things. None of it is a feint, all of it is the main attack. Where they win, they win, where they fail they'll just keep on trying.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I think it’s less focused than that. I think it’s “I want to make the world worse in these 10 ways. If I only get 5 of them, I’ve still managed to make the world worse, so I’m happy.”

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I just read this article that expands on that thought. They're trying to sustain mass-outrage with never-ending headline news. Most things he's attempting are being done by Executive Order, he doesn't have the support to have things passed through traditional means. Lots of the things he'll attempt won't get anywhere but the headlines are good enough for him to use as a distraction. I'm not saying bad things aren't happening. However, it does appear there may not be as much success in his attempts to fuck everything up as there are headlines detailing the attempts. I'm not 100% sure i fully agree with this article, but i found it thought-provoking. Certainly open to hearing anyone's thoughts on this too: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-trump-column-read.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uk4.6pOw.Db_3T-xndI_z

[–] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consistently the worst person with the worst thoughts. I’m tired.

[–] booganiganie@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get him. For the past 20 years of seeing him I just think/know that he's a grifter. But friends of mine think he's a genius. It's like the gold dress blue dress thing.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

There's some folks out there who are just stupid

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think something like this has been floated before - then probably involving Jared Kushner. Absolutely crazy that they’re seriously proposing it. And even crazier that a lot of people are open to it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

Yep. Zios have been salivating over stealing that land since zionism was concocted a hundred years ago.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jared-kushner-gaza-could-be-valuable-waterfront-property

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So uh, this is literally what I have said would happen for like a year. Every single time someone tried to use the bLuE MAgA line on me since Oct 7 went down, I pointed out that Trump would do precisely this: just send more weapons (and maybe even direct air strikes from the USN and USAF), level it, and build Trump Tower Gaza on the “newly unoccupied” beachfront. Every fucking time I mentioned this, I got shouted down.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago

Of course you did, you alarmist you! Somehow when the dots that make up a connect-the-dots image are so close together you don't need to complete it, people get upset that you "spoiled" it

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This dude is a cocaine/adderall junkie, why would anyone believe what he says?

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

With that gut, he's doing zero cocaine.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Including whole article copypasta violates lemmy.world copyright rules. A paragraph or two to make it understood is fine, archive links are fine. Please edit it down or we'll have to remove it.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Apologies, edited down to a few paragraphs. Thank you for giving the leeway - certainly not trying to mire us in copyright.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Much better! No worries! We're all good!