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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Everything about Warren and the white labor aristocratic women who worship her is just so bizarre.

Edit: Like…faking Native American ancestry to get a job at Harvard alone should have immediately disqualified her from basically everything, but we live in a settler colonial hellscape, so the only consequence for her was some humiliation from a handful of fascists. Her supporters probably still assume that this unbelievable racism on her part is just a conspiracy invented by Trump. But then she started her campaign with a fucking DNA test, which has nothing to do with being indigenous (as far as I understand it as a settler). It just goes on and on with these people, one disaster after another, and we haven’t even gotten to tattooing numbers on their fucking forearms. How could they possibly think that was okay? Did none of them stop and wonder about this…?

[–] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had lib friends that would do this native American thing. Their parents would lie or maybe have been lied to and say they had a lot of Cherokee in them. So these libs will make it part of their identity until the 23 and me results come in and they realize they're not that native after all. They take these identities on and off like they were fucking hats. Like, if a full blooded native American came up to me, said he was my dad, gave me all the documents to prove it, and it turned out I was over half Cherokee it wouldn't make me native American, that's just not my lived experience. If you think DNA factors into it you may as well break out the calipers and starting measuring your skull to see of you're allowed to celebrate Kwanzaa.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A lot of white people are actually that stupid, because especially Southerners spent years starting in the 19th century claiming they had "Cherokee royalty" in their ancestry. It was some weird shit where they wanted to claim a genealogical connection to the land, and they figured that chiefly/noble/royal blood would sort of cancel out the inherent inferiority of its non-whiteness. A strange artifact of the times, when people still took royal bloodlines so seriously I guess it could overpower their racist little minds?

So tons of white people have had their grandparents spouting off stupid shit their grandparents told them

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that a lot of the "Cherokee blood" mythical ancestors for us whites were actually black, and for whatever racist reason it was more acceptable to say you had a Cherokee ancestor than a black one.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was because there were some Cherokee slave owners, historically

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I believe it's also related to the same brain worms that led to the US naming all their attack helicopters after certain native tribes: these kinds of chuds always chose the "warlike" or "warrior" tribes (said with heavy air quotes here) as their "distant ancestry", because toughness or something

[–] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think also that being white in America you kindnof have no culture, which is depressing, so white people are constantly trying to find some excuse to have anything more going on with them and their bloodline than just "assorted crackers".

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately many native tribes have been pulled into the blood quantum bs too, it’s not just settlers. One of my closest friends grew up on the res, speaks her tribes language , and looks native and even holds tribal membership, but because her dad was white, she was heavily ostracized.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, my half brothers are 1/4 native alaskan, from their dad, but they get treated like family by all the full blooded members of their tribe, even though they’re white as hell, and live in a white city multiple states away. They get free healthcare for life, and when their grandparents and dad die, they’ll get payments for the rest of their lives from the state of Alaska.

I kinda went off topic here, but I hate discussions of blood quantum entirely. Like you say, indigenieity (indigenous-ness? Idk…) is cultural more than anything. Some cultures have integrated the racism of the settlers into their culture though, and it only hurts themselves.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

just this morning I saw a Tesla SUV with two bumper stickers: don't mess with Texas women (don't live in Texas), and one of those classic WARREN blues

This is my second traffic related post today. What up my fellow americans

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only marginally related but I saw an RFK ‘24 bumper sticker this morning 🤡 🔫

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Not much, went to the gym on my lunch break and am now eating lunch at my desk on company time

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

don't live in Texas

Uh oh sounds like one of us has broken containment

[–] Juiceyb@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no, you encountered the Officer wife. Like the troop wife but hillgasm

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're like the lamest and most toxic kind of Disney Adult. Only Buttigieg/Harris supporters are stranger to me, and maybe Andrew Yang's if he still has them.

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Andrew Yang has never been a mystery IMO; from what I saw he attracted the futorology-wormbrained techbros, roughly the same circle as the main target for crypto grifts

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Her making such a big deal out of the DNA test just showed how much of a joke it was. Blood quantum is pretty controversial among American tribes because colonial subjugation and assimilation has pretty much made DNA tests useless for determining how indigenous someone is. For example, a decent number of escaped black slaves joined up with the tribes in the 1700s-1800s. Some of their descendants aren't indigenous by blood at all, they may take a test and find out that they are 100 percent African descent. But if your family has spent multiple generations living on the reservation, they shouldn't be denied membership because the white people running BIA decide they're not indigenous enough.

This goes the other way around as well. There are black people that don't have a lick of African ancestry. Not as common as the other way around, but I've met people like this. They still identify as a black family. Their family has been living the lives of black Americans, unaware of their indigenous and hispanic ancestry for generations until a couple years ago with the rise of 23andme type tests. Race is real, but it really is widely a social construct. I don't think it's reasonable to say my friend's family isn't black when they have been living as black people among other black people for generations.

I say all this to say that Elizabeth Warren could have come back with test results that prove that she's indigenous and it really wouldn't matter. Her and her family have lived as white people for generations. When it comes to modern American indigenous identities, DNA really doesn't mean shit

[–] logflume@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

When you phrase it that way, it is curious that the only Warren supporters I've ever met were white labor aristocratic women. My friend's wife who works at Eli fucking Lilly of all places used to bag on me incessantly for not supporting her over Bernie. She was ironically very bought into the whole Bernie Bros stuff.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why would those women care, they also tell everyone they meet that they're 1.375% native or whatever

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is what the reaction was. Her supporters held up the DNA results as if they were vindication.

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[–] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a non-yank it's so weird to see how normal personality cults are in the US.

The most milquetoast woman I've seen, with the personality of an HR manager, gets dozens of online addicted weirdos to tattoo themselves in her honor, even though I'm certain a person like Warren would sic her guard dogs at anyone with tattoos if she could.

To be fair, which god knows I hesitate to do, these are all campaign staffers, so imagine the kind of person who signs up to campaign for Warren and it should be a little less confusing

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was because milquetoast women with the personalities of HR managers were excited for the representation.

(This is not meant as a dig against milquetoast women with the personalities of HR managers. Rock on, boring girls.)

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Big boring girls make that rocking world go round

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[–] LocalMaxima@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I simply would not get a “Blood and …” tattoo on my shaved scalp in a black letter font

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah not reading to the bottom of that one

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

pickle-liz i tHinK yoU CaLLeD mE a LiAr oN nAtiOnaL tV

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that supposed to look like a fucking holocaust death camp tattoo?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

It's the hexcode for that particular shade of green Warren used for her campaign

The fact that these people never stopped to think about the fact that it looked eerily reminiscent to a death camp tattoo is just further proof of how disconnected they are from the world

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I think that's an unintended tone deaf consequence of the tattoo. Same with the first one looking like skinhead Nazi shit. These people got high off of their own supply of huffing each other's farts and genuinely did not consider the negative outcomes or consequences of their decisions with these tattoos.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first one on the head looks straight up Nazi lmao

[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"There's just something so intoxicating about this 'blood and soil' phrase, but I can't quite remember where I enjoy it from" maybe-later-kiddo

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also wtf is that background poster in the tatoo room? That's like 100 times worse than the whole Spur steak ranches stuff here in South Africa. (It's a restaurant chain in SA that uses a caricature of a Native American as it's logo).

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the painting Warren made of her ancestors

[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh my gawd I didn't even notice it at first glance because I couldn't take my eyes of the liberal nazi scalp tat

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Well can't say it doesn't fit the scene...

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it could be a stylized painting by a local indigenous artist or something.

The context of the white lady with the Nazi phrase on her skull makes it look worse lol

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the "blood and teeth" tat is good for when these libs inevitably get scratched
then they can just cross teeth out and write soil

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even remember what "blood and teeth" was. What was it?

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Oh that second choice is better. That should have been the first choice.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Cult behavior

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

joyce-messier

click meHeartache is powerful, but democracy is subtle. Incrementally, you begin to notice a change in the weather. When it snows, the flakes are softer when they stick to your worry-worn forehead. When it rains, the rain is warmer. Democracy is coming to the Administrative Region. The ideals of Dolorian humanism are reinstating themselves. How can they not? These are the ideals of the Coalition and the Moralist International. Those guys are signal blue. And they're not only good -- they're also powerful. What will it be like, once their nuanced plans have been realized?

The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Getting what looks like a Neo-Nazi tattoo to own the Bernie bros

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Willing to bet that these are the same honkies who get spooked by "gang activity"?

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

warren-snake-green

immediately, we need some media heat, to say that gangs run the street, and then we bring in the police fleet, harass and beat everybody till they look inebriated, when we bought the land, motherfuckers will appreciate it

warren-medusa

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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

They were shooting blanks, though

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

warren-medusa now look in the mirror.

LIB

liberty-weeping

[–] Tofu_Lewis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Screaming red blood eyes, Matt Christman scrubs lye across the ink-drawn words etched into his flesh ... "Bernie 4 Lyfe"

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