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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I can at least congratulate you for finding the right forum. Fuck Elon regardless but I know a good deal when I see one and I can handle a little moral quandary. I like my '23 M3 and my TSLA gains. Enjoy your life getting pissed over the meaningless choices of others.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Tesla are objectively inferior to established OEM in many ways. The build quality is awful, refinement is poor. The main advantage Tesla have is their system architecture. Since they were an electric car company from the outset, they don't have the problem of legacy systems and tooling to constrain their design solutions. This manifests as best in class efficiency, ability to remotely reprogram the control systems and surveil vehicle data. On the other hand, it takes a very long time indeed to solve the many problems of making a car reliable and high quality. They just haven't been around long enough to reach the level of OEM that have been doing this for a century. Tesla is mostly an exercise in slick marketing and it seems to be working, for now.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I just avpid the issue altogether and just use trains, buses and trams if I'm not walking or biking. Public transport is the only real future. And bikes.

Btw I lived in a rural town before living in a city so don't @ me about public transportation not being viable in rural places, once the cities are well served and built around public transportation that can be expanded to more rural places. The few places where it is genuinely impossible to viably use even a modest or limited public transportation network are inhabited by so few people that its impact from them using cars would be negligible.

In fact I'd say it's not so much what type of car you drive but rather how much you use your car, because electric cars are less polluting than combustion engine cars but they're still pretty polluting and come with all the issues cars come with. If you have alternatives to driving: use them; if there aren't but there could be: fight for those alternatives; if neither: use whatever car you have already for as long as you can before it destroys itself like your toilet after a night out eating 50kgs of mexican food like a slutty little boykisser, after that perhaps look into buying one of the alternatives listed here.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

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[–] Skitals@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you buy any EV besides a Tesla you are a fool.

  1. buying a car is not an endorsement of the manufacturers CEO
  2. Tesla charging network is unbeatable (such as the fact that it works)
  3. every other EV is first-gen and unproven. Tesla battery degradation is known because there are 10+ year old cars on the road with hundreds of thousands of miles. There is no significant loss of range in the normal lifespan of an automobile
  4. Tesla quality sucks but so does pretty much every manufacturer
  5. the price is the price of a Tesla. You know exactly what you will pay before stepping foot in a "dealership". There are no market adjustments and shady BS.
  6. since they are an ev only manufacturer I trust their service center 1000x more than a dealership whose techs work 99% on ice vehicles.
  7. Elon musk might be a dumbass but he isn't going to intentionally compromise the safety of Tesla vehicles. It is bad business sense if it will lead to recalls, safety concerns, loss of mind share, etc

My opinion will change in a few years when Ford/gm/Hyundai/Kia/vw get another generation under their belt. I certainly wouldn't want to buy an EV now that doesn't have a "Tesla" nacs connector now that pretty much everyone has announced they are adopting it.

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