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[–] Etterra 4 points 6 hours ago
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

To shreds you say?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 day ago (29 children)

The democrats know all these things and don’t care. they’re just as much in service to the billionaires as the republicans.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

They'd rather lose to Republicans than cross their "donors."

The gravy train runs to both parties as long as they protect this sociopathic grift of an economy from the people it enslaves. The DNC would consider winning on a platform of ending oligarchy (which could only ever happen with a left wing populist that steals the party out from under them like Trump did to the GOP, solely to steal their grift machine in his case) a catastrophic defeat and national crisis on the level we wish they'd treat Trump like.

It's why leaders like Nancy Pelosi make it their mission to sabotage spoiler members (because both parties promote on the basis of being a good bribe getter and taker) like AOC. She spent weeks before Trump was inaugurated making calls to prevent AOC's committee leadership bid. There's the DNC's priorities.

Our whole captured government is a game of neoliberal/fascist-good cop/bad cop. Do you want to waste your life enriching sociopath would be pharoahs with affirmation ribbons or scapegoats? A con game we can't stop playing as we're exploited dry.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 16 hours ago (16 children)

Liberals don't care. Socialists / progressives do care. Bernie and AOC have consistently fought to expand class consciousness and to fight against the growing wealth disparity

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The "liberals" you speak of are just conservatives larping as liberals

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 4 hours ago

The word for a liberal that cares about class consciousness is "Error: undefined. Did you mean socialist?"

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago

Isn't AOC a Democrat?

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Controlled opposition.

But still better than whatever is happening now. I can't imagine a Nazi salute at Kamala's inauguration.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

True, liberals are the lesser evil compared to neocons and fascists.

But the top 100 richest billionaires grew their wealth by 63% under Biden so liberalism still inevitably leads to extreme wealth disparities that erode democracy until neo-feudalistic oligarchy is all that will remain

[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

They'd never go after their donors but at least I don't have to worry about a second Wannsee Conference.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The democrats know all these things and don’t care.

Kevin Phillips, the Republican architect of the "Southern Strategy, has a vastly different view. He essentially said, in his book, "American Dynasty", that Republicans think of the working class as dirt to be used however they royally please, while Democrats at least acknowledged that the working class enabled them to be where they are and supported them.
BYTW, Kevin Phillips, who is very politically knowledgeable, is now extremely disillusioned with Republicans and generally hates both parties.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago

Maybe that was true in 2004 when it was published but it is no longer true. Both see the working class as dirt.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Fortunately there's other parties

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As it stands, third-party will never win in the US.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fortunately we can change the election system to be democratic. Maine did it years ago, for example

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck with that on a federal level. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans will risk losing an inch of power.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 10 hours ago

Luigi has entered the chat

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (17 children)

It's not gonna get better until the people start to stir shit. Remember that.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Doesn't matter now. He's rapidly destroying the regulatory infrastructure and sending his brown shirts out to sow fear and confusion. He is a fascist, the rest of the Republican party are his enablers, and things are going to get super mega shitty before they get better.

If they get better.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

We talkin' about President Elon or his dick sucker, Donald?

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