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It's time. Everyone agrees the DNC is a failure for numerous reasons. It's time to stop bitching and figure out how to fix it.

How do we get people like Bernie, AOC and Jon Stewart in charge?

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[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The DNC chair election is on Feb 1st. That person has a hufe impact on party policy. I suggest starting there.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly who gets to vote for that chair? Do they hold elections? I doubt we have any say. If we did we would have fix this shit in 2016. Instead the fucking elite still hold all the sway with the DNC and we will never get anything better. They are going move futher to the right as they always do.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

448 members vote. State party chairs + vice chairs + some picked by the current chair

The American Prospect has a list of them all that they put in a google spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQKIP3W1NWChRjSbsE0O5k5s7OdgXrJi5-CMfFECIBU/htmlview

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See nothing will change. They vote only the one that will bring them donor cash. We really need a new party.. Bernie kept telling us how too. Build it from ground up. But no one listened.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No , we just got a list of people that we need to harass. This is the internet.There are people here from all over the country. Take the spreadsheet Which is already sorted by region, And add email addresses phone numbers and ways to contact them. Make it a list telling individuals Who they need to harass in their region.

Divide and conquer motherfuckers

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Thanks, this is perfect. Who wants to start getting contact info with me?

Divide and conquor

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Democratic_National_Committee_chairmanship_election

They do hold elections on February 1st.

It's a start, but not voting is probably what the party elites are counting on. You won't see CNN or MSNBC emphasizing the importance of this election, but that may be intentional.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Voting where we the people vote? Didn't see that also I'm registered independent. Left the party after they fucked over Sanders in 2016.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I was wrong, 448 DNC members get to vote. The members who get to vote are also not elected.

I guess we could pressure them but at the end of the day there is no accountability for this role.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Years ago Pete Buttigieg ran for the gig as an unknown in order to get name recognition. Im hoping he runs again.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

In early 2009, about 4 months after Obama took office, I realized he wasn't going to do one of his main campaign promises , which was to shut down Guantanamo bay. He repeatedly promised to shut it down to stop the abuses and allow the US to take the high road and fight evil the right way. Then he did nothing. I realized Obama was far too centrist and that the US was going to get a lot worse than better. I called the DNC and deregistered with the party. I told them why.

Call, if you're registered (for primary voting as I was( and tell them they're failed assholes.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The short answer is: you wait and hope that they change themselves.

The longer answer is: wow you're still waiting?!

The DNC pretty much has a closed loop. That the US is stuck in 2-party hell is the icing on the cake.

[–] skizzles@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

And the real answer will put you on a list.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

We cannot save the DNC and it cannot save us. We need a party from the grassroots, a people's party, not a coporate party.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 1 day ago

We don't control the DNC, DNC is controlled by the owner class who fund it.

This ain't changing. Two party regime is captured.

We need third party that will go actually do proper opposition

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago

Support your local socialists. We need farther left leaders to push liberal policy in that direction like maga did for the gop

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

The DNC is a corporation. They don't care what any real people want or need.

Inb4 - see: Wilding vs DNC Services Corp

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Get involved. Start local.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Local meetings are an eye opener into the bowels of the party. Lots of people show up trying to find a way to engage with the party. What they find tends to be people obsessed with raising money, people looking to wrangle large teams of volunteer block walkers, and people doing busy work that's totally disconnected from the candidates or the other party offices.

The Democrats don't function as a party. They function as a branded franchise.

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This aligns with my experience. I tried to get involved and was met with near hostility from someone who is now a multiple times over failed candidate because I didn’t value things precisely as they did and wasn’t interested in just serving them.

To be clear I volunteered a TON for some candidates I have believed in. Including doing the grunt work, and had plenty to offer.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My biggest frustration with the party is in how it just evaporates the week after the election. I'd been an avid volunteer since 2006, and it felt like every two years I was starting over from ground zero. I could never find the "in" with party organizers, because it was all consultants attaching themselves to candidates, whipping up pools of volunteers, and then collapsing back into nothing at the end of the cycle.

During the off-seasons, district and county meetings were pretty empty. We had a city councilor who organized trash cleanups and other civic activities - which, that's fine on its face but not political activity just unpaid janitorial work. We had mayors who would sit patiently through meetings, nodding and smiling and agreeing with everyone, and then did his own thing regardless of public sentiment.

Deeply enervating.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

My biggest frustration with the party is in how it just evaporates the week after the election

Same. My business is across the street from the former local Democrat headquarters. The week before the election there came to me and said they wanted to keep their lease going and asked if in exchange for me caring for the place i I got to use it as extra space. I own a local game shop and could use the area for larger Magic games, and for d&d. but the day after the election I showed up to work and their space was totally empty.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the party is in how it just evaporates the week after the election.

Yep. which shows you how concerned they are with the electorate when it's not voting season.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No, just showing up without a defined purpose is just a blackhole of nothing. Either intentionally or accidentally the system has been set up to prevent normal people from getting past the local level.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's probably less effort to just start from scratch.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's important that no more energy be wasted on the party that refuses to change.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You listened to the Jon Stewart interview with AOC, didn't you?

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't. What was said? Tl;dw

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You really should. Maybe not today, but when you have time. What else are you going to do? Just watch YouTube and fart around on Lemmy?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was planning on sharing some more data with the CCP on xiaohongshu later today.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago

Made me laugh. Thanks.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I only got about halfway through it, but there was a lot about the DNC being ineffective and overly focused on hierarchy and order in times when norms are being completely trashed by the other side.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and I was thinking the same thing about others as I read posts here. Jon is the key - His tireless work for the 9/11 first responders, And his consistent calling out bullshit on both sides makes him the person that we trust to be able to believe in these other people.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He's great at messaging, obviously. I don't think he wants an actual position in the party as a full time politician though.

[–] Mitchie151@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Don't you all in the US vote on like, everyone and everything? Can you vote for another dem against a dem locally? How do all these ancient people stay in their seat for so long?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 1 day ago

https://berniesanders.com/contact/

Nothing is possible in isolation. I don't know of any better way than finding the people who've been able to have the biggest impact, so far, and trying to join up with them and push to amplify and improve it.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't forget Pete Buttigieg

[–] Spottso@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want anyone anti-healthcare in charge of shit

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 11 hours ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Pete_Buttigieg

I assume they take issue with his idea of Medicare For All Who Want It?

Buttigieg isn't good enough, but he's better than most Democratic candidates.

The problem is that he's a gay man whose name is Buttigieg and America has proven again that it's not intellectually above that being a problem.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago

Pete is a corpo plant. He covered up the east Palestine train derailment like a daddy's lil bitch would.