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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Most all of this system of control was predicted by Orwell, Ministry of Plenty concerned with rationing, Ministry of Peace concerned with war, Ministry of Truth concerned with disinformation and the Ministry of Love concerned with torture and interrogation.

Not quite. Yes... But not quite. This isn't the edgy realization you think it is. But, it's a start.

[–] Deifyed@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The course of capitalism. Incentives are not aligned with human prosperity

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Right, but the incentives are aligned with the prosperity of individuals who figure out how to use them, so they do. It may look like one group vs another, but it's really each capitalist against everybody else in the world, with a few alliances that are abandoned when they stop working.

[–] Deifyed@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Banks and pharma comments are for sure trash. Weapons... Also trash. The idea is to dominate and that's what you pay extra for. These are all industries I have personally worked for or my wife has.

The media is going to tell you the truthiest thing that gets clicks for engagement so that's basically true.

This is mostly tin foil hat except the government bit at the bottom that is legit trying to fuck us all (I worked for them too).

Edit: Your word of the day is "verisimilitude". Or alternatively "specious".

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No..

Banks make a ton of money from debt.

Pharma makes a ton of money treating symptoms.

Weapons cannot be sold if there are no wars to use them in.

If you actually take a minute to think about it logically you'll see where the profits come from

Edit: it's not that they're doing it intentionally to ruin our lives. But they are doing it intentionally, for profit. And the intentionality to follow the profit is what's making the standard of living worse for everyone

[–] LyingCake@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago (24 children)

Oh, come off it! Pharma is keeping us sick, really? Listen to yourself!

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you. Pharma has other issues that aren't good for society but believing this is for the absolute tinfoil hat crew.

[–] Bz1sen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Is this /s or not I can't tell. Well they definitely benefit from drugs that you have to constantly take. For years. Until you die. That's their business model. If there could be a drug that cures you instantly, there is no effort to develop it by this company who sells you this constant supply of drug. So yes. Pharma has an interest in you staying sick enough to need treatment and not die.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Have you heard of Perdue Pharmaceuticals, by chance?

[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Make more profit if you're ill.

Sponsor Macdonald's

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You make the most profit by coming up with life-saving medicine, making a boatload off it, and putting your competitors out of business. The company that cures cancer will literally destroy their competitors. From that point on they print money. And think of the good will and brand value from a move like that.

They don't need to keep us sick. There will always be new diseases and new ways to get hurt. Evolution and stupidity see to that. And if they did solve for that somehow, then their focus would be on keeping us alive and healthy in old age.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

“Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.”

― Michael Ellner

I have genuinely written that on the wall of an isolation cell in my own blood. I was denied my prescription medication.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mutually Assured Dominance!

Taken together it really does look like a conspiracy of elites vs commoners, but it's really just elites individually and in small alliances doing what they think will benefit them individually. No elite will support a system they can't personally control. they only take advantage of parts of it that benefit them, and try to create more of those parts. Collectively this makes it look like they're all working together, until some issue comes up that benefits one and hurts another. Then they throw each other under the bus, which sometimes benefits the rest of us.

[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

And the stupids are going to reduce everything to one-liners

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The corporate leaders will work to keep their profits up.

If that means keeping us healthy and telling the truth, then that is what they will do.

Bankers thrive off of loans and weapon manufacturers do thrive off of war though.

A sick person want to get healthy, and if a drug can't do that, most people won't buy it.

The media needs trust for people to consume news, truth is a hugely important commodity.

Lol that last one... No. Just no.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If a drug makes someone feel better despite not helping with the underlying issue, people will buy it. Even if that drug is known to cause issues. Painkillers is a whole category that does the first part and contain ones that also do the second, some by wrecking your liver, others with addiction.

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[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I do not know if you mean this serious? I mean an anarchhocapitalist believes all these things you stated to be the truth. Maybe except this:

the media needs trust for people to consume news, truth is a hugely important commodity.

As selling the truth can be profitable as a propaganda tool against enemies in the short term.

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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Keeping us healthy and telling the truth will never maximize profits.

If the drug can help, the sick person will buy it. If it cures you when the pharmaceutical company can sell one that treats, but does not cure you, then they will not sell you the cure.

Your "gotcha" is weird and useless.

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[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are any of those statements true?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's the neat part.

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