this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
73 points (83.5% liked)

News

24249 readers
4933 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

We have no fucking time. They told us, explicitly, what they were going to do.

Any halfway decent opposition party would have already had responses ready for each and every one of the executive orders that have been signed

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s amazing that these assholes need time. Fuck off with the triangulation. It didn’t work in the election and it won’t work now.

The only thing they have to do is take a principled stand in favor of people. Everyone has value (besides Nazis). But they are too interested in appealing to corporate interests and republicans.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 6 days ago

Exactly. They need time to figure out a strategy where they can appeal to their base while also proposing contradictory public policy that harms their base. Judging by their performance in the past three presidential elections, this strategy will never exist but it sure as hell hasn't caused them to do any sort of self reflection.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Translation: "We need time to figure out a way to look like we're doing something without risking actually changing anything."

If we're not careful, we might accidentally do something that the voters like but that our owners don't approve of.

[–] Fisherman75@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Well the republicans are in some kind of hyperfascist accelerationist mode so I'm not sure exactly how much time we have to give them.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

You've had 8 years, 4 of which you had control of the white house. You've had enough time. You squandered it. Are you really going to do anything useful with even more?

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

"we gotta get more racist"

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That dickhead got roasted for "concepts of a plan", but just when you think the Democratic party can't get any more pathetic they go and show how hopeless they are. AOC needs to break and start a party with Bernie.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

It probably wouldn't take much to get Omar and Tlaib on board either.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spoiler alert: it will be "send us more money!". That's what they always settle on.

[–] riot@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

Nailed it. This is and always will be the dem’s platform.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Step 1: put AOC and Bernie in charge

Step 2: Let em go ham

At least do…something.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party right now.

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might be the best reason to put him in charge.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'd love him to be in charge, but I doubt it will happen. I'm actually surprised he hasn't retired yet considering his age. I'm glad he's still fighting the good fight though.

[–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh no, they may be forced to put out likable candidates?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or treat the left as though they are voters with agency?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Am I so out of touch?

No, it's the voters who are wrong.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Both? Both.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

“Personally, I don’t want to give Republicans an inch on their claims they care about national security after their pardons,” said Murphy, D-Conn. “My hope is that we’re going to be down on the floor and on TV and back in our states talking about the danger of these pardons.”

At least there's someone awake at the wheel

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They’ll figure out some way to reach across the aisle and meet in the middle.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 6 days ago

Like "mandatory Nazi salutes in schools but only on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays."

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

By the time they're done reaching it's gonna look like they too are doing a Nazi salute.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

It's a long-distance high five!

/s

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

This would make a good cartoon.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

We've decided to rename the Democrat party to Republican Lite in order to appeal to more voters.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gee. Maybe they should have come up with one some time between 2015 and now.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago

Ideally people would have seriously punished Ford for letting that Nixon prick get off scot free and fought against the personality cult that was built up for Reagan, but if we’re talking about this century, the democrats should have come up with something as soon as the tea party lunatics got in position to kneecap public sector unions during the first Obama administration.

It didn’t help that the occupy protesters were made to look like their message was a motley hodgepodge of pet causes with no real cohesiveness.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You mean what got Trump elected the first time?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats kept the filibuster around for this reason, right? They didn't just keep it around to prevent progressive policy from passing, right?

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The second they try to use it, the republicans will nuke it, citing the precedent that the democrats did it first with lower court judicial nominees when they refused to let a single one pass, same way they did with scotus nominees when democrats dared to use it one time in protest against the stunt they pulled with Garland.

Force Dems to reign in minority power the tiniest bit and use that as an excuse to remove minority powers entirely the second they're in the majority is pretty standard Rep SOP now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Then the only point in preserving the filibuster was to block progressive legislation.

At least Democrats didn't have to codify Roe or pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Trust me, I'm in agreement with you there. They really need to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like the GOP fascists are going to follow the rules and act with integrity.

And I'm being awfully generous here with assuming there's a chance it isn't malicious on their part, that maybe they really are just that incompetent to have missed the reality of this situation. Even though I don't have much hope of that anymore.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm wondering where are the big names in the Democratic party and the left?

There is a palpable atmosphere of fear coming from a large population in America and there is silence from the "opposition" party. Why isn't Obama and Michelle organizing and speaking at rallies? Why aren't other prominent Democratic leaders not trying to rally support for a genuine resistance. Not the resistance of 2016, which I feel failed due to no true national leadership from the Democratic party.

Maybe this is happening and I just don't see it, but it sure feels like the national Democratic leaders and influencers just threw up their hands and said "well, we've tried nothing and we are all out of ideas. You're on your own to figure it out. But remember, if your leaderless pent up fear and anger turns to violence we won't support you."

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I’ve been wondering that as well and I had a kind of scary thought; maybe there is no opposition party this time around because what’s happening is exactly what all parties involved want to be happening. I’m just so baffled by the state of politics in the US that I can’t help but to feel like we’re witnessing some kind of sea change in the fundamental structure of the government. Unfortunately it is not a progressive or thoughtful change in ideology.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Maybe this is happening and I just don’t see it

Then they're not doing it right.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Shit, even what we had in 2016 was at least something

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How about the guiding principle that Nazis are the enemy of America?

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

They'll see that as too controversial, wouldn't want to divide the people...

(/s, just in case)

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah if they were a real party for the people they wouldn't need to search too long.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They wouldn't have lost either.

Pelosi tanking kneecapping any attempt to curb congressional insider trading certainly didn't help. Nor did funding a fucking genocide. Their continued subservience to donors over their voters drives people away.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

Yes time and time again they've proven that they're willing to put anything and everything ahead of helping the American people. They want to have their cake and eat it too and are willing to go as far as losing elections if it means they don't have to turn their backs on corporations or foreign governments engaging in genocide.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago

Those dinosaurs have had too much time already.