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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Conservatives lie in their very word choices.

"Somebody pointed out I was wrong about something" = propaganda

"Conservatives lost" = it wasn't fair

Stuff like that. Take the opportunity to talk about things in ways that leave the reader understanding more clearly when you see lying word choices like the ones in this screencap.

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

??? their guy put a literal neo-nazi in a position of power and they're calling acknowledging this "propaganda"

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're already here, so much Nazi apologia has appeared all of a sudden.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have seen a few “Roman salute… throwing his heart… autistic… etc” people in the threads about Edolf Muskler’s salute.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Also seen plenty centrist democrats blame protest voters as if that had more of an effect than the democrats bending over for republicans.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Glad I am not the only one to have noticed.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 25 points 1 day ago (7 children)

People are so fucking stupid. Liberals complain that Reddit is too conservative now. Conservatives complain that it's too liberal. Well which is it?

[–] dilroopgill@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

thats that controversy feeding algorithim

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Its both because they pander to the popular, which is why anything thays actually useful, funny, or satirical gets banned on that site.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

It could be that people are just getting more polarized or at least more vocal about all political beliefs? Maybe? I'm not really sure, tbh.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s the problem with reddit

Mods have complete control of how left or right a given community is so you will always see the one you don’t like if you look for it

Like someone said below, it's the mods that are the problem.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

depends on which sub you go to.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, I kind of hope they do.

Every time they experience the slightest indication that their views aren't normal or reasonable, they lose a little bit of confidence and a little bit of power.

Think about the "weird" moment last summer. Walz had Republicans sputtering and whining about how they totally aren't weird at all. The best Trump could come up with was "no u!" I think, if Harris had maintained that energy, she'd have been inaugurated this week. And speaking of this week, Trump is all offended and in a tizzy because an Episcopal priest read him the words of Jesus on Tuesday.

The slightest speedbump or disfavor spins them out.

Now. What community on the internet is more disfavorable toward conservatives than Lemmy? It's nothing but speedbumps for them over here. They'd last approximately an hour and a half, and they'd see a more united resistance than they've ever imagined from corporate-owned media. Some of them might even realize that the mainstream socials are actually preferential toward them, and maybe reevaluate some opinions. For a moment, they'd see how weird they are.

Filter bubbles aren't inherently bad. But when they're holding together an odious group in a terrible shared delusion, they need to be popped. Lemmy might pop their bubble, at least a little bit.

Let them come. I pity their bar tabs.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The moderation practices on that subreddit have created an environment where dissenting opinions are swiftly and permanently banned. This approach has fostered an echo chamber where only one perspective is allowed to thrive, reinforcing a cycle of confirmation bias and groupthink. As a result, most conservative posts lack depth and often resemble oversimplified memes rather than meaningful discourse.

Even when an opposing viewpoint manages to slip through, it’s often dismissed as artificial or the work of bots. This mindset reveals how deeply entrenched their worldview has become—so much so that they struggle to believe that differing opinions could be genuine. It’s a surreal and unfortunate dynamic that stifles any chance of productive discussion.

[–] thbb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A sure sign of their self delusion is that this sub admits "satire" posts, in what is supposed to be for discussing conservative topics.

Because leftists are not as inconsiderate as them, they have to make up imaginary stories to expel their rancor.

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every once in a great while the people of Reddit do the right thing and I'm proud of every one of them that took a stand. Even the BBC is calling it an awkward gesture and they aren't owned by right wing billionaires in the US. Not ONE media news org here has called the obvious. Sanewashing. Wish I'd never heard the term.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I will play devil's advocate. Media outlets are scared of being sued for defamation or scrutinised for what may turn out to be misleading news. That's why there are always referring to "sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity" or adopt a mild language to refer to something. But if I am a news publisher, I would describe Musk's gesture as "appears to be Nazi salute" or to that effect. It is still calling it out as it is, but I would still have plausible deniability.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I see your point ... Fear of retribution through the FCC is now a real thing. This is how it begins though - first they ban free speech and any dissent and then the ones that still stand up will be disappeared.

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[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The biggest issue is that the media is focusing on just this one incident in specific. They're acting as if whether or not musk is a nazi hinges exclusively on if it was meant as a seig heil or not.

Ultimately his nazi salute is just the latest in a very very long line of racist and intolerant shit he's said, done, and perpetuated. Regardless or whether he seig heiled or not, he's still a nazi.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, nice! I'm not yet banned from that subreddit!

Lets change that :D

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

That subreddit is an absolute dumpster fire of stupidity.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 days ago

Who else is fully expecting Reddit admins to come out in a few days banning twitter bans, and banning anyone that tries to enforce them?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 135 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Im bombed by leftist propaganda

They are correct, but not how they think. A big part of conservatism, even among the less fanatical, is to bury your head in the sand. I can see how peeking out for some air will seem like a flood of propaganda. Like that "final experiment" that just went down to dunk on flat earth, but for even the most mundane thing about how society works.

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[–] HaunchesTV@feddit.uk 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'd love to see a flame war between MAGA conservatives and Hexbear tankies. Horseshoe theory manifest.

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone said on reddit they don't want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else's food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around "the left is bad".

They do get tired from that and there is no new "left is bad" if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of "the other", then, they would need to find new "others" to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white ("ginger" people which should've be considered the "correct type of white" if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep. Just a reminder that Irish and Italian people were not considered "white" in the US until relatively recently.

We used to have distinct legal terms for each degree of "blackness" in someone's background. If you had one black grandfather, the government had a term for you. None of this is new to the US.

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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Conservatism is for people who can't think for them selves. They Can't comprehend there are different needs for many different peoples. They need to be told how to live, love, and even act. Education can solve the issue but those kinds of people don't want education they want everything to be under their control their ideology.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's the definitian of the Hobbesean "right", that human nature is monstrous, beastly and war-like, and that we need to rely on a "better few" to monopolize violence to keep everyone in order. They don't believe that people are capable of self-governance because they don't do it themselves. The Rousseau "left" believe that we're egalitarian by nature, and that we're innately good in small populations but have naturally strayed from our egalitarian origins because of civilization. Anarchists understand that both of these are incorrect.

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 50 points 2 days ago (11 children)

PSA: IF THE TROLLS DO MIGRATE HERE, DO NOT FEED THEM. BLOCK AND REPORT IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A PRODUCTIVE, CIVIL CONVERSATION.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A hilarious part of this thread was that they convinced themselves that X couldn't possibly be that unpopular and it had to be a bunch of bots posting and upvoting these threads to ban X.

In support of this they said "This post about banning X is the [n]th most popular post ever on /r/LiverpoolFC, even higher than when they won the champions league! It can't be real". They didn't even consider that the post about banning X made it to the top of /r/all where a lot of people who couldn't care less about football/futbol/soccer upvoted it. They couldn't care less about that team, but they also supported banning X, so they upvoted.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They will not join mainstream instances obviously, and we can defederate them.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lmao

u/MountainMan88 blocked me after calling his thinly veiled bullshit out over on reddit and was crying about it on r/Conservative.

So much for not needing safe spaces and echo chambers.

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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They should just make their own Lemmy instance and stop bitching.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But then they would get defederated and have to face the fact that everybody hates them, and that wouldn't be as fun as doing their hate speech with a big daddy corporation to shield them from the consequences.

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[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why would they come to lemmy if they're sick of the left? Lemmy is the most left place on the internet

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