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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's gonna be handled are already in the works (lemmy.world)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24607393

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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

People are being gaslit.

The rich just want more people as soldiers or workforce. Having a larger population is not a good thing for the poor people. Smaller workforce means higher wages as per the free market (supply - demand).

And the worst part is, instead of seeing this, people jump to conclude "no, we just need to distribute the resources differently", as if that's gonna happen. It's free labor market all the way, even if that means people living in poverty.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

or workforce.

Not even.

They're constantly trying to find ways to reduce staff to the absolute minimum.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wow it's almost like the dems did less than nothing about this for 4 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're blaming the dems, because surely that will help anything.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

It will actually.

In its current form the dems are a center-right republican-lite party. They serve the same oligarchs the Rs do.

You see that in the policies they push and support. Or rather, the lack of policies. They don't do anything constructive that would actually help people unless it's a PR stunt when they need a little boost. And even then they lash it down with narrow scope and means testing.

They are supposed to be the opposition. As in oppose. But they don't. They refuse to. And they actively work to keep people who want to work for the good of the people out of positions of influence. If the dems wanted to, they would never lose an election again. But they don't want to.

Do you know why we have term limits? It's because the populist policy and social programs instituted by FDR made him so popular he was elected to 3 terms as president. Minimum wage, labor laws, social security, etc.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I drove to a friend to Kansas last year for an abortion. I still don't know if it was mine. Either way if those services weren't available then she would have suffered tremendously by having that baby. As badly as I wanted that baby to be mine it didn't matter in the end because it's her body not mine. It's a simple as that and fuck anyone that wants to take those rights away

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago

You did the right thing.

Can't have a child grow up in poor circumstances.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

You did the right thing, I feel for you both.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You all voted for this shit.

If you stayed home then you voted for this shit.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think you will be hard pressed to find Republicans on Lemmy. There might be some, but not that many.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

They didn't get more votes we provided less votes. There are absolutely US citizens on here that did not vote. This was clearly on the table. This is going to hurt, people are going to die, and we need to learn. You simply can't let somebody like that get voted in under those circumstances and then expect to be able to resist.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And how many democrats stayed home on Election Day?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Trump bragged about Elon rigging the election for him.

How many actually did stay home?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone who believes the election was rigged is stupid as fuck. So when he lost it was rigged. And now that he won, rigged? So it’s rigged no matter if he wins or loses?

Bro, just admit you got played like a fiddle. They convinced you to stay home and not vote because you fell for the bait like all the rest of the lemmings.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Interesting assumption to make based on my comment. Also an interesting belief to have that because Republicans, who are quite known for projection, spent four years crying wolf it means they can't have committed fraud themselves.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I voted for Harris to try to prevent these horrors out of harm reduction.

But the Neoliberals haven't given us anything to vote for for half a century.

Good cop neoliberals with affirmation ribbons/bad cop Fascists with scapegoats, both for human beings dying in the streets for the crime of no longer being able capitalist exploitation livestock in droves as a threat to laborers to produce for their shared donors.

A vote for democrats is a vote for quiet slaughter, a vote for Republicans is a vote for loud, braggadocious slaughter. We don't get a vote for peace. We don't get a vote on the economy. Only the social wedges that don't meaningfully effect quarterly earnings expectations.

Luigi tried showing us who our shared enemy is, and it isn't their revolving door middle managers in DC.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Currently this abortion info/help community seems defunct, but it might be worth trying to revive in some manner. I don’t have time right this moment, but it’s something I’ll look into helping with in the near future (like next week):

https://lemmy.ml/c/auntienetwork

(I’m not sure how linking on Lemmy works yet, so hopefully that comes through ok.)

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Admittedly didn’t read the whole thing but this looks like they want to pay for pro-life centers everywhere. I don’t see anything about restricting care, except for scamming people into walking into a pro-life center pretending to be a medical center.

Even today’s partisan court has to balk at government spending money on something that appears to be religion based, right? Right?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Remember, it's not pro-life, it's anti-choice.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We need a better term, since it’s not entirely anti-choice. It’s “your body, my choice”

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well....now guys, we must not have sex with women. We should have clubs where we help each other thru the power of masturbation.

We're doing this for you women! And we're chopping our balls off...America's got talent never heard notes as high as we'll have in the next few years!

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

It's a Castrati revival!

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 142 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Ok states rights crowd, fuck around and find out with my states constitutional protection of abortion.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 99 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Pro Women’s Healthcare"

😡😡😡😡😡😡

Fucking propagandists

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something straight out of 1984. When I read the novel in high school I was naive enough to believe it would never be reflected irl to quite this degree.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The more accurate analogy would be The Handmaiden’s Tale.

Absolutely terrifying. And once the underground railroads fire up to bring women refugees to Canada, I’ll do my part to help.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They aren't really off with 1984. "The ministry of peace" being the department of war and all that. Pro Women's health actually being anti women's health.

It's so gross...

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[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s it! In getting sterilized.

[–] OmgItBurns 2 points 20 hours ago

I got snipped and it was the on of the best days of my life. Definitely something you need to go into understanding how permanent it is, but if you definitely don't want kids I cannot recommend it enough.

[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

The booklet has the "encouraged" procedures section where they state "sterilization reversal" which is just wild

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Soon, a sterile breeding age person will be labelled an unproductive useless eater and the department of efficiency will remove you from the payroll of life.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mildly infuriating?

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