At first I thought it was blown out of proportion, too. After watching the video, I can only say that if he did that in Germany, he would have been arrested on stage. Let's see what topic-relatedly, profoundly knowledgeable Benito Mussolini, allegedly, had to say:
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
Ah, ok, thanks Benito! Enjoy your fascism that you voted for, America. I hope those egg prices will go down (they won't).
I hope those egg prices will go down (they won't).
They might, since deregulation is another of Trump's plans. Then the producers can save money by not bothering to keep dangerous substances out of the food, or the water, or the air... and pass those "savings" on to the consumers.
and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.
More likely that they pocket those savings for extra profit and the prices stay the same.
Hey, but they didn't go up! 🥴
Don’t be so sure about the not going up part. Prices will always go up!
Deregulating the industry while we're on the cusp of a bird flu epidemic and after pulling out of WHO. 💀
If you don't need to look for Avian flu, or stop selling eggs from sick Chickens, then cost savings can be passed on to customers, and no one will notice increased healthcare costs/deaths. Cheap eggs y'all.
That only works for so long before shit like the avian flu kills all the flocks.
Maybe arrested and then let go without any consequences. These guys are too rich to have proper punishments.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
You could absolutely just replace anti-semites here with fascists, to encompass all the other minorities they intend to oppress
CNN is already sane-washing this, referring to Musk's "odd gesture."
The ADL said it wasn't a Nazi salute, for what it's worth.
they have lost all credibility.
And AOC called them out for downplaying it as well.
Which discredits them entirely
ADL = Anti Democracy League in this case, maybe in others, but definitely in this one.
Also known as the Apartheid Defense League
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Steps like a goose.
I asked the Anti-Duckification League and they say he's a swan. You're misconstruing things and frankly we find it a bit weird that you'd read so far into such a banal hand gesture.
Now, if you'll excuse me, we need to get back to our primary goal of making the use of the phrase "From the River, To The Sea" a capital crime.
The real excuse from Elons fans is "It's just a joke." Or "He's trolling libs."
Which is almost as bad, even if true.
It reminds me of school bullies that would make cutting, abusive "jokes" and follow it up with "Just kidding, bruh" if it doesn’t land right. And these are some of the worst human beings I have ever personally encountered.
How can people worship something like that at such scale? Like, I wouldn’t even wish that on the most raging Nazi, it’s worse than breaking their jaw.
Another one I saw was "But Kamala Harris did it as well" which is just a frame and had to yet see an link to the video in question unlike when Elon Musk did it
1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today
Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler's Early Rhetoric and Policies
Here's the list from that second article. Article goes into detail for each.
Neither was elected by a majority. (not relevant now this was 2019)
Both found direct communication channels to their base.
Both blame others and divide on racial lines.
Both relentlessly demonize opponents.
They unceasingly attack objective truth.
They relentlessly attack mainstream media.
Their attacks on truth include science.
Their lies blur reality--and supporters spread them.
Both orchestrated mass rallies to show status.
They embrace extreme nationalism.
Both made closing borders a centerpiece.
They embraced mass detention and deportations.
Both used borders to protect selected industries.
They cemented their rule by enriching elites.
Both rejected international norms.
They attack domestic democratic processes.
Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.
Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.
They proclaim unchecked power.
Both relegate women to subordinate roles.
"No, see, it's not a salute because his hand is tilted .026 degrees higher than that of Adolf Hitlers Nazi salute, so how can you even compare the two things, they're completely different!!!"
Tbf, Adolf Hitlers salutes were really sloppy.
Hitler was also whacked out of his mind on methamphetamine most of the time, just like this jackass
Seriously, he had the worst heils. He would just flop his front arm up.
They're gonna be mad that you insulted the führer
MAGAts ain’t cryin tho
He is crying from happiness, until, as always, affects their family members.
I've tried to imagine how I would gesture 'my heart goes out to you' vibes. In no world can I imagine a down-turned, flat palm, fingers straight and all together at about 45° (Nazi salute).
Like, if you were to give some one something (your metaphorical heart) you'd hand it over palm up. Or if you're metaphorically distributing it like sewing seeds you would again, throw it out, palm up, hands slightly closed. Or if you're throwing it like sand, you would have your fingers apart by the end of the throw.
In no world, does this make any sense other being a Nazi salute.
Or he's the most awkward, weird dude in history. That is also, true, but given his other behaviour, I dunno how this could be read in any other way.
Racist "dog-wistling" is dead. This guy does two successive straight-up Nazi salutes after supporting right-wing politics in the USA and Germany and mainstream media still goes "hum, I'm not sure, maybe he's sharing his heart"?
What's next? "Oh no, it's not a swastica flying over the capitol, it's just 4 'F's in a circle".
The birdy has grown
Ok, so imagine that you're a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you're going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?
So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn't, that Musk doesn't even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he's grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn't vote for him.
He can't quite get that arm up real good, can he.
Billionaire can't even get a well-fitting suit.
Quit linking Twitter and X. Almost any other site will do.
i think in a logical society it would have been the other way around (second image would be the first)
