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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a member of an invasive species myself, I feel offended

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Found the Br*tish person.

[–] Russian_Bot_6969@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans are the ultimate invasive species. In fact, the majority of invasive species origins in a biome can be traced back to human activity.

Not being eco-fash, just pointing out that we can't exploit the land to a maximum degree and then hoist the blame onto bugs, cats and carp.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When animals invade without the "help" of humans, it happens in a very different speed which the ecosystem can adapt to.

And even tho I made the joke, I wouldn't say humans are the problem. Humans lived more or less "in harmony" with nature and then came colonialism and capitalism. Humans are capable of living differently, the market is not.

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans eradicated species of animals long before even the medieval ages.

It's just a thing humans do.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but never on an ecosystem endangering scale. Species go extinct, that's what happens in nature all the time and humans were the cause in history and prehistory. But never on the scale of today.

If you have the mega fauna in mind: it's very debated how big of an impact the humans had. There are different factors at play for sure, like changing climate. Was it really humanity that made the woollen mammoth go extinct at the end of the ice age?

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m a zebra mussel as well

[–] ShootBANGdang@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans on their way to catalyze untold suffering due to their inability to comprehend externalities

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

We've fucked up every ecosystem there is and are looking for ways to fuck places that don't even have them. Humans are the worst.

[–] streetman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait are foxes an invasive species?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Red foxes are one of the most damaging invasive species in Australia. They've led to the extinction of multiple species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_foxes_in_Australia

[–] eslaf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

In Australia, everything is invasive.

[–] Risk@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was an old country that imported a toad.

I don't know why, they imported a toad...

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And now nothing but those toads cover ever single meter of road

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Damn that's crazy, we hear about the feral cats being super bad for the native species but not red foxes, they're pretty rare here in the US, or at least in my area.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Like... humans?

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I heard some libs doing a sinophobia at all the DISGUSTING CHINESE CARP ruining the great lakes, as if Xi himself trained a flotilla of carp to destroy lake michigan

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Were they discussing the fish or Chinese people? Just because they don't like the fish doesn't make it sinophobia.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Aren't those supposed to be surprisingly tasty + a potential new industry if we can get restaurants to start serving them?