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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 hour ago (9 children)

Wow, lots of people on Lemmy just look at screenshots of text and dont read anything anymore.

I dont think he said anything controversial. Read what he wrote.

He's not supporting Trump or the Republican party in general. He is calling them out for selecting someone good on antitrust. That's not controversial.

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[โ€“] chloroken@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I personally don't care. If their code changes, I'm out, but this shit is par for course. Capitalists are largely all capable of these decisions.

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[โ€“] Nicro@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm currently on Tuta, because I can't imagine Mail without a free tier. It's run out of Germany(EU). Its 3โ‚ฌ a month for the normal tier, free takes away most features. Like Proton, you need to use their (OSS)-Client, for encryption reasons. It's currently growing and I hope they don't go crazy anytime soon.

I was looking at Posteo, but I don't want my entire internet identity to be gone, if I ever can't pay for it.

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[โ€“] nightm4re@feddit.org 22 points 8 hours ago (10 children)

I've said it in another thread: German users should consider posteo as a green, safe, and affordable (1โ‚ฌ/M) alternative. https://posteo.de/de

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[โ€“] Doomsider@lemmy.world 39 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Remember when businesses stayed the fuck out of politics so they didn't alienate their customers because they like money? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Taking a neutral stance is also political; Also when people say that "they don't like politics in X,Y&Z" they mean politics that they don't agree with

[โ€“] Ferk@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Is "staying out of politics" even possible for a company?

I feel even just the creation of a company already has political repercussions (and I don't mean that as in them being necessarily bad).

[โ€“] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Remember when businesses stayed the fuck out of politics

No.

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