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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Keep in mind this is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago

Still a decision maker and able to convince other members though.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you're cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise

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[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (10 children)
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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fuck? Way to flush the credibility they built down the drain.

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[–] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I guess Andy or the proton social media team has started using the corporate bluesky account to discuss it now.

https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3lfrqm6wpzs2p

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oof, using the Official brand account to post shit like this? 🤨

Did the other 4 board members of his Non-Profit organization (that owns Proton AG btw) approve this, or did Andy Yen got too comfortable and see himself as a king?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 42 points 1 week ago

Absolutely big off to post that shit from an official account. He's not the only one working at Proton and this is not going to play well with proton users.

I'm seriously thinking about looking at alternatives. He must've gotten too much money now and gone republican.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

interesting that it's deleted now

anyone got a screenshot?

[–] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow they really need to get in check. I do have the screenshots

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hilarious, talks about corporate Dems yet is supporting corporate Republicans. Elon Musk is arguably the face of big tech and so acting like Trump is going to 'do something' to big tech is also delusional. Big tech has already gotten out the checkbooks and kissed the ring down in Florida.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thiel, Musk, Zuck, and Bezos among others.

It's beyond parody that you'd pretend Republicans aren't owned by corporate and tech interests, I quite frankly don't believe he believes it.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

ugh gross they think trump, who has big tech ceos lining up at his door, or the republicans, who want to kill encryption and vpn accesses are going to tackle big tech? welp time to get a refund.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

We didn't get what we wanted so we choose evil.

Never used em but i feel for people who did.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No one going to comment the Trump absolutely did not write that? Read it; completely coherent, proper English, all that.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not one all caps word. No fuckin way he wrote that.

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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

Was considering them, now I'm not. I'll keep using mullvad.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yikes. I was just about to shell out for Proton VPN, but now I won’t.

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would suggest Mullvad as a trustworthy alternative.

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[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago

Speedrun any% to kiss that ring

[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was wondering, is proton as trustworthy as everybody says? I generally dislike it because its closed source, but that makes sense considering they have to host servers. but this makes it seem... uncredible. any alternative to protonmail?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I generally dislike it because its closed source

I mean, the user clients are open source (right? correct me if I'm wrong). So if you compile it yourself, it should be safe.

So for the contents of email, drive, calandar, those things should be safe. They could secretly keep a log of metadata and IP addresses, tho. The VPN, yea that is basically just requiring trust

Also, Proton AG is now controlled by a Non-Profit organization, Andy Yen is only one of the five board members.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Proton better shut this dude up as I really don't want to find a new platform :|

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won't give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I just dislike that they had to take a political stance at all. Companies and celebrities should stay out of politics and focus on what they're good at/known for.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Don't agree completely. Celebrities are people too, they can use their voice to do good and activate people with regards to politics. Kinda cruel to just say "focus on what you're known for, which is a pretty face. I don't care about anything else that makes you human"

[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

I feel like the rules are different here. This dude is not a celebrity, he is a CEO of a company which mission is to provide a secure and private email service. I don't care about him as a person, he represents his company here. His job is to make sure that the data of his customers does not get in the wrong hands, and being as apolitical as possible is part of it. (Unless it's speaking up against laws that will undermine his business such as banning encryption, but that's not what's happening here).

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I mean, I don't agree with his politics. But this opinion is no different than telling football players to shut up and play football when they were speaking out against systemic violence against minority black communities.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Echo the disagreement. Yes it makes like more complicated, but it is important to know who/what you are supporting.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FFS. Unfortunately there really isn't a good alternative to Proton right now (don't @ me about Tuta until you've seen how much downtime they had recently).

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