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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] Jonnynny@lemm.ee 7 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

I am dissapointed that my VPN is getting involved in US politics. This is not something I want for this kind of service. I dont want to debate US politics here. That being said, I cancelled my annual autorenew for April and I would like some recommendations. Originally I was deciding between Mulvad and Proton. I've also seen some people in this thread using Tuta? I am in Europe and just want a service that prioritizes anonyminity and data protection. I don't know how the dust will settle on all this Proton stuff. What would you all recommend for a provider?

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

So apparently mullvad and windscribe are the best ones people use.

And I am using windscribe no problem.

It is however not as good integrated in Linux as nordvpn. But it's a lot cheaper.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago

Lmao, proton looked sus to me for a long time. Good I never felt for anything more than their email.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vale@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

good thing too, because the page is now deleted

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They're is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

He rarely writes any of his tweets. They're dictated to staff

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 48 minutes ago

I doubt very much his dictation sounded anything like that tweet. There may have been five or ten words in common.

[–] thefatfrog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

My dear friend, what is happening over here: “They are is no way…”?

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 hours ago

Really disappointing. Never imagined this from Proton. Truly dead to me now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Shou@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. I just switched to proton mail this week.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 41 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

So Proton is out.

Sorry, I won't trust a service that licks fascist boots.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

I was about to pull the trigger on Proton. Good to know, I will never use this service now.

This also reinforces my belief that email should be provided by the government. If they are going to spy on me anyways might as well give it straight to them.

I am sick of private companies providing the primary way we communicate when they can kick you off their platform because they think you look funny.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Regrading Update 2, maybe the other board members can push his guy out? I'm paid for to the end of the year, so I'll wait it out a bit. I'd rather not jump ship, only to have that ship also go pro fascist too.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they are based in Switzerland

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

They are, but US antitrust/monopolies affect the market worldwide. In https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2022/12/27/andy-yen-ceo-of-proton-on-the-tech-giants-that-dominate-the-internet-the-webs-future-and-bitcoin/ the same guy discusses the issue in more details.

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 hours ago

Burned my accounts, moved to Tuta.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 45 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Been using their paid service for months. I have so many aliases. I'm just surprised. Surely this company knows its biggest user base has to be too educated to let this slide.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Lots of educated fascists. Having a degree hardly guarantees a progressive worldview. If you're in an extractive industry or a heavily financialized one, it works against you.

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[–] quant@leminal.space 24 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I don't want to mix tech with politics, but what in the actual fuck?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 hours ago

Politics are mixed with everything.

In that case, I see this as speak with your wallet moment. That statement has done it for me and I am dropping proton for Tuta or something else.

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 hours ago

How is it possible to not mix tech and politics?

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Nothing good is allowed to happen ever again.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago

Yeah this really makes me doubt the security of the service.

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