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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 minutes ago

Lmao, proton looked sus to me for a long time. Good I never felt for anything more than their email.

[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They're is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.

[–] thefatfrog@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago

My dear friend, what is happening over here: “They are is no way…”?

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vale@sh.itjust.works 5 points 55 minutes ago

good thing too, because the page is now deleted

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 hours ago

Really disappointing. Never imagined this from Proton. Truly dead to me now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

God damn it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So Proton is out.

Sorry, I won't trust a service that licks fascist boots.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I was about to pull the trigger on Proton. Good to know, I will never use this service now.

This also reinforces my belief that email should be provided by the government. If they are going to spy on me anyways might as well give it straight to them.

I am sick of private companies providing the primary way we communicate when they can kick you off their platform because they think you look funny.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Regrading Update 2, maybe the other board members can push his guy out? I'm paid for to the end of the year, so I'll wait it out a bit. I'd rather not jump ship, only to have that ship also go pro fascist too.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Nothing good is allowed to happen ever again.

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As a non-american I don't care. I will not move anywhere.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they are based in Switzerland

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 3 points 56 minutes ago

They are, but US antitrust/monopolies affect the market worldwide. In https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2022/12/27/andy-yen-ceo-of-proton-on-the-tech-giants-that-dominate-the-internet-the-webs-future-and-bitcoin/ the same guy discusses the issue in more details.

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 hours ago

Burned my accounts, moved to Tuta.

[–] quant@leminal.space 21 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I don't want to mix tech with politics, but what in the actual fuck?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 hours ago

Politics are mixed with everything.

In that case, I see this as speak with your wallet moment. That statement has done it for me and I am dropping proton for Tuta or something else.

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

How is it possible to not mix tech and politics?

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[–] RatBastard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Can anyone recommend a decent free vpn? I can't afford to pay for one rn and theirs is the only reputable free vpn i know of :/

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm not going to lie, I've been burned by every free VPN I've used due to one scandal or another. I just gave up and pay for Mullvad when I need one. I haven't done much research, but the Brave VPN is probably a decent free one. Or Tor, but it might not be what you're looking for.

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I’ve not used it but I see people recommending Mullvad (sp?) a lot.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 40 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Been using their paid service for months. I have so many aliases. I'm just surprised. Surely this company knows its biggest user base has to be too educated to let this slide.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Gotta kiss the new king's ass so he doesn't go after you.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

Yeah this really makes me doubt the security of the service.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

Honestly I'll still be using Proton and recommending it because it's just good and a net benefit for everyone, but goddammit Andy you should've taken Swiss neutrality to heart this time and not said anything.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

1940s Swiss bank neutrality.

[–] tomatol@lemm.ee 14 points 6 hours ago

just so you know they have doubled down on their official Proton account. It is not just Andy's opinion: https://lemm.ee/post/52665828/17509919 https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/comment/m7ahrlm

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