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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] taiidan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Great points here! I also worry that after all this time that people in the food deserts have had their palate altered so even with the availability of fresh food it's unlikely to take off. This would require serious community investment. I don't know if this is too paternalistic.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Who shops for food beyond snacks at the dollar store??? I guess people who don't have a choice.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I'm sure that's the point. For a lot of people that is the only option. I have a Dollar General within a 2 minute drive while the actual grocery store is a 30 minute drive. If I didn't have a car I'd have no other choice.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't find the $tore is really that cheap. They have smaller sizes in most cases for food items. Prob better off at a big store and getting bulk frozen stuff.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This highlights part of the problem of how expensive it is to be poor. When youre living paycheck to paycheck, the thought of buying anything in bulk can be so daunting. Sure, you can get a months worth of food at Costco for $100, but when there's $50 left in your bank account, $30 at the dollar store will get you through until the next paycheck, then the cycle repeats...

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

and we’re right back to the Vimes’ Boots Theory

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I understand your point, but still think you would be better off at Walmart or some place just picking up what's all on sale.

[–] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They mention in the article that they chose to use dollar stores to demonstrate the challenge of eating well in food deserts

And this sentence in the conclusion is pretty spot-on:

"Targeted policy to expand food access ... will be necessary for the Lancet climate food plan to become effective."