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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

what a bunch of disgusting human beings. I think for them being a democrat or republican doesn't really matter. Like parasites they will just latch on to whatever opportunity is available and pretend like they are a part of the system.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Really glad all our votes make a difference, we have great representation, these people really share the voice of the American people. /s

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

US politicians only believe in the justice system when it suits them. Lobbing 155 mm artillery shells at civilians, packed into the Gaza Ghetto, is a war crime.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You see that every single GOP votes with isreal 100% of the time, tho, so vote dem if theres no viable 3rd party in your district.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here's an idea. We all just stop. And loudly let them know they fucked up. Because rewarding them for this behavior is just going to get more of it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is why Trump got reelected.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

That, and voter suppression, voter-roll purges, selective closure of polling places, intimidation, and of course lying media expecting perfection of Democrats and giving a free pass to fascists.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Partially, yes. Clearly these representatives didn't get the message. So the lesson must be applied again in their districts.

[–] dtjones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in your camp, but I am also very cynical. I think your reasoning assumes they care if you do/don't vote. They know that they have an army of rubes (both Republicans and Democrats) who will "vote blue no matter who" or whatever the conservative equivalent is. In the last 8 years I have seen many very intelligent people compromise on their supposed values because to do otherwise would be an existential crisis. I don't know how you break through that.

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

partially, yes

No entirely.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When Trump won PA he won. The one state where we know people stayed home because of Gaza was Michigan and it would have caused a win for Trump if they had gotten to that point. But Michigan effectively didn't even get a chance to count because Pennsylvania's electoral votes put Trump over the line on their own.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There are many ways she could have won with modest gains in other states.

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[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only 30% of eligible voters vote. If even fewer vote it's even easier for elections to be manipulated

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This isn't an abandonment of voting. You just don't vote for those guys. They have elections every 2 years.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These are paid offices, right? Run as an anti-Israel independent, maybe it'll be the start of something big.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless your platform is anti-abortion, anti-tax, pro-jesus then that would just split the vote between you and the DNC candidate, ensuring the GOP wins and doing more harm than good.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Run on that platform and then immediately change to the Dems. As gop candidates have done in the past.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You cannot win office with that approach outside of maybe a handful of districts

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, you think there will still be free and fair elections?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

You think this is a productive response?

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Here's the list of voters that you can narrow down. It's appalling. AIPAC, the pro-~~isreal~~Genocide lobby, has been pushing this, in order to shield their terrorist leader netenyahoo from punishment. The bill would not just sanction the International Criminal Court, but it's members. They are actively trying to punish individuals across the globe, for condemning isreals genocide, using the American peoples congress as their cudgel.

Meanwhile isreal has blocked or impeded every single humanitarian aid shipment to Gaza since October.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Well atleast my representative was a no vote, wish more would be done but atelast my representative isn't following along with this.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

This is what Democrats call bipartisanship.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the most furious debate of all time will be whether the United States is owned by the AIPAC, or the Russian Mafia.

if they aren't in one pocket, its the other

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

AIPAC has every politician kissing the ring at their conference. It is not even a contest.

If Russia had the same level of influence as Israel, America would be invading Ukraine with Putin.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 201 points 3 days ago (3 children)

“Republicans want to sanction the ICC simply because they don’t want the rules to apply to everyone,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Massachusetts) on the House floor on Thursday.

McGovern highlighted that Republicans are moving to erode human rights while ignoring urgent issues within the U.S.

“We have a natural disaster unfolding in California right this second…. We have a gun violence epidemic, as we see massacres in our schools nearly every single day. And families are unable to make ends meet because they’re being ripped off by billionaire corporations,” said McGovern. “All those challenges, and this is what the out of touch elitist billionaire Republican party wants to waste time on. Sanctioning the ICC.”

I liked Jim McGovern already, but I like him more, now.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds reasonable, but the name? It's like they're not even trying to hide the fact we're in a simulation any more.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 126 points 3 days ago (1 children)

45 democrats need to get fucking primaried.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (5 children)

AIPAC is ready to fund them

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Honestly, campaign on that.

“My opponent supports genocide. They’ve received xxx,xxx dollars from AIPAC. They’re being funded by foreign interests because they put those interests before you.”

And to any dem politicians out there thinking about it- AIPAC and Netanyahu fucked Biden. They are not your ally. They are not your friend.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tried that. Just say that eggs will be cheaper, doesn't matter if it's true.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They aren't going to be cheaper so add that line in.

They took X amount of money from AIPAC to put foreign interests above your family affording groceries. Isn't it time to actually focus on Americans?

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 54 points 3 days ago (11 children)

When will US truly have a centre left party atleast?

[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Considering we have a far right and a controlled opposition party, never.

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[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

The list copied by hand from https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024242

Sorry for any errors

  • Boyle (PA)
  • Caraveo (CO)
  • Cartwright (PA)
  • Craig (MN)
  • Cuellar (TX)
  • Davis (NC)
  • Frankel (FL)
  • Gallego (AZ)
  • Golden (ME)
  • Goldman (NY)
  • Gonzalez (TX)
  • Gottheimer (NJ)
  • Horsford (NV)
  • Landsman (OH)
  • Lee (NV)
  • Levin (CA)
  • Manning (NC)
  • McBath(GA)
  • Meng(NY)
  • Moskowitz(FL)
  • Nickel (NC)
  • Norcross(NJ)
  • Pallone(NJ)
  • Panetta(CA)
  • Pappas (NH)
  • Peltola(AK)
  • Perez(WA)
  • Peters (CA)
  • Phillips (MN)
  • Ryan (NY)
  • Schneider (IL)
  • Schrier (WA)
  • Scott (GA)
  • Slotkin (MI)
  • Soto (FL)
  • Stanton (AZ)
  • Suozzi (NY)
  • Thanedar (MI)
  • Torres(NY)
  • Vargas (CA)
  • Veasey (TX)
  • Wasserman Schultz (FL)
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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

75% of Democrats voted against it and 100% of Republicans supported it. The problem in this country is Democrats, because a portion of them side with Republicans sometimes.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

Honestly the fact that 75% of Democrats voted against it is actually kinda surprising. In the past close to 100% of both parties were knee-jerk pro-Israel votes. This means there's actually a good chance it won't pass the senate. If people wanna call their senator instead of complaining online, maybe it won't. I'm in DC so I'm allowed to just complain online until you give me my two senators.

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