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Leaving Lemmy World (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by IzzyData@lemmy.ml to c/sciencefiction@lemmy.world
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I enjoyed my time being here and helping to grow this community. My plan was to keep things such as book of the month and show discussions going indefinitely. It's sad to say goodbye as I would love to continue to try my best at facilitating discussion and help this community become a great resource for science fiction fans everywhere. Unfortunately, I don't have a choice as lemmy.world admins have made the rather baffling decision to ban my account despite no rules being broken. Unless I hear back from Ruud on the matter and the situation is rectified there is no way for me to continue to enjoy discussing science fiction with all of you here. I'm unsure if I will attempt to restart this community on another instance.

Keep on loving science fiction. You guys are great. πŸš€

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[–] cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

FWIW, here’s the modlog: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=49420

(edit: The link requires manually fixing by removing the amp; part, but leaving the ampersand-symbol because lemmy also has broken escaping)

18h ago temp ban: This is your last warning
1h ago: Permaban. Harassment. Toxic behavior.

Not sure what harassment that is as I don’t see any deleted messages, and their profile doesn’t have anything I can see, but it’s not as if Lemmy is great at being transparent and clear, so I could be missing something.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Specifically they are upset that I've mentioned that Sync has ads in it. Which is both curious and suspicious. I'd rather not think up conspiracy theories, but it doesn't make any reasonable kind of sense. If you can decipher this strange behavior then I'd be curious to know. Whatever makes this "toxic" is beyond my current understanding of the situation.

[–] cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, I read that chain earlier, and while I absolutely disagree with you, nothing about that was toxic or harassment.

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Though it’s abundantly clear that his views are gaining some negative attention from some users that either are misinformed, or have questionable intentions.

It’s entirely possible companies are trying multiple vectors to gain a chokehold on the community early on, seeing that most of the fediverses users are in currently in one convenient basket. Making communities falling under it, very appealing for predatory agencies.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

if that's all it takes to get a perma-boot there, how tf they have any users left?

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don’t agree with the ads take at all, but I don’t think the commentary was toxic or harassing.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where is this chain? Link, please?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

here

All I see is OP’s opinion. Not toxic in the slightest, imo.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, quite the opposite. Izzy was fairly stating an opinion and other people were being cruel and borderline toxic in their responses (nothing to warrant bans anywhere, though).

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks!

Edit: Hm. It gives me a server error. Bummer.

Edit 2: Never mind. Opening in private mode did the trick.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

WTF!? That's the most ridiculous ban I've ever heard of...toxic behavior my ass, those mods definitely have some stake in sync and the revenue it generates or something and got mad. Childish powertripping behavior banning people for the types of comments izzy have in that thread.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 10 points 1 year ago

Very odd behavior. I’ve never used sync as I’m on iPhone but it’s been wild to me seeing the drove of users it has and the defense they have for any type of critique towards it. This takes that to an entirely new level. Speak about it and be banned.

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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I put my money on the ads comment and someone concerned had a few words with admins.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you're going to give it a go, look at my instance (science Fiction and Fantasy Alliance) or the literature cafe one. Hopefully you can get unbanned though.

[–] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, beat me to it! https://sffa.community

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Izzy@lemmy.ml, if you or others move the community somewhere else, make sure to post to new communities or here so we can move with you.

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

@izzydata Odd behavior on the part of the admin there, especially as they were adding you as a mod to communities less than two months ago. Feels like they have a stake in Synch bringing in some revenue, and aren't happy about your criticism.

You ran a great community over there, and it's clear you're getting the shaft. If you ever are looking for a home for your content, you've got an open invitation to the @13thFloor - always looking for great scifi across all media.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm so sorry to hear that.

I've too been banned from 2 communities without any justification. (I even made a post about it.)

We need to speak up as members of this wonderful community, we need to build a network that works on trust and reason.

Otherwise, Lemmy (and the Fediverse at large) will be no better than the big tech platforms we fight so hard to get away from.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean users are the ones that are flocking to lemmy.world to start new communities instead doing that on other instances.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I find that particularly worrying. For all its decentralisation, there's a lot of eggs in the LemmyWorld basket.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I don't generally post on lemmy.world if alternative community exists somewhere else. Cross-posting is a good tool for spreading out but it is not really getting used a lot due to mobile clients not handing them and just showing multiple posts in a row (which annoys people).

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a bit of a discoverability problem I think, much easier to find content on your own instance. (So new communities are opened on instances with lots of people)

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely. Lemmy needs to figure out a way to search more globally (e.g. Mastodon relies on tags for discoverability), but there are external tools like https://lemmyverse.net/communities at the moment. I think just as important is people understanding that you can still grow on smaller instances if you produde interesting content. Just start is a bit slower.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 4 points 1 year ago

Having to use an external tool gets in the way of a lot of people just through friction unfortunately. Lots of the people here are quite techy I think which helps though.

I need to take another look through there though, I keep running out of content.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs can help with this, and be run by the instance admin rather than the users

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually look in all or ine new communities community

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All is only really useful in the larger instances because they have the communities federated, but yeh, that does help, especially if you are sorting by new or a short top.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs can help with discoverability

[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I was instanced banned as well

This is just like reddit, curating content they approve vs what they disapprove

Who knows what this is, was or soon will be

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand why this would happen. Seems silly to ban someone over expressing their opinion when they're doing it in a perfectly sensible way. This stuff makes people worried that they'll get banned for innocent posts. Will we get banned for this?

[–] Swim@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world is dying a slow and painful death, just hop on a more suitable instance.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will you move the community to another server?

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has kind of soured my enthusiasm for it, but I'll think about it. It is a passion of mine and I love being here, but I'm unsure if it can be the same.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please do, lemm.ee has been great for me, much faster too, and this is one of my favorite communities.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A fiction specific server I think would be great, rather than just another big instance.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I really like that one

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Could be a great place, sffa seems interesting too

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sifi.live is available, just need to set up an instance on a vm.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Be warned. Setting up the vm is the easy part. Then you'll have to deal with moderation, users, spammers, etc. It's a much bigger commitment than just running a single community.

[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I feel you. After the Reddit events, I just don't have the enthusiasm to help maintain many communities anymore. It's hard when you put a lot of work into it and then get treated like shit in response.

[–] SYNOPSIS@lemmyf.uk 7 points 1 year ago

You didn't say anything toxic there, I left reddit coz i grew tired of the too many power mad mods it had if lemmy is gonna end up the same then adios.

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