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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well that's just because God works in mysterious ways you lil silly Billy.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago

Or maybe he’s just a cunt, what with all the murdering people.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Where God is humanist principle, and God is a humanist, then circularly, principle exists without micromanaging intervention in perpetuity.

The old testament is extremely problematic. Israelite hasbara coup. Polytheistic relgion at the time was Canaanite. The descendants of Noah's grandson. El was main god, that Israel is named after, and all other god's were his offspring. Greek rule over the region, had Greeks say that all of the major Canaanite gods were the same as the Greek gods, with El as Zeus. Yahweh was the tribal god of Israelites. But it is basically very easy for any priest to invent a new god, based on narrower factional/fertility needs to collect revenue for rewarding the priest to champion your tribe/goals contrary to humanism.

The problems with old testament start with 10 commandments

There is no god before me (Yahweh), is a coup over El.

"Though shalt not covet/idolatrize" was an insurection cry over Canaanites where Yahweh orders the Israelites to destroy all idols of Canaanites instead of valuing their silver/gold content. El/God had no desire to repress worship, and their priests accepted offerings and sacrifices, so why not idolatry.

"Honour thy father/parents" codifies law at the time that gave parents the right to have the state execute their children for "dishonour".

Just as all Churches today have as mission to maximize their power through alliance with state/authority/hierarchy, so have all religion through time. A cult is simply a religion without state approval. God exists without church corruption. Prayer has no measurable effect, but Abrahamic religions being rooted in a lie could be one explanation. Still, that evil exists, doesn't imply that humanism/principle doesn't exist, just that you individually have the power for evil, and tyranny/autocracy has power because you are deluded to allow/tolerate it, and evil happens from the greed and desperation it fosters. Evil exists because we are too collectively stupid and gullible to organize ourselves around evil.

https://www.naturalfinance.net/2022/11/the-invention-of-truth.html

[–] TwoFacedJanus1968@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

If this were multiple choice, then I would go with #2.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you guys pray to me, I promise to notice you and pay attention. Which is more than you can say for any god.

(You have to do it out loud and in front of me though.)

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Kneeling bags my nylons.

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (18 children)
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What god and satan was Epicurus talking about here? Just curious what idea of an omnipotent, omniscient, loving god existed about 300 BC. My little Roman mythology knowledge has their gods closer to Greek gods: limited in power, easily fooled, and extremely flawed.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

AFAIK there is no proof that this paradox was actually coined by Epicurus, despite later being attributed to him. Epicurean philosophy holds that the gods exist, but don't interfere with anything, so it's pointless to fear or appease them.

Hence, it would be a later invention attributed to him.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

You know what they say, the best way to make someone an atheist is to make them actually read the Bible from front to back.

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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The simple solution is that there is no "evil."

I like the story The Egg by Andy Weir. It gives an example of that idea.

Alan Watts also talks a lot about that sort of thing.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You remind me of my wife.

When we met, she introduced me to lots of short stories that made me reconsider my perspective on things. This was one of them. She still makes me reconsider my convictions whether I want to or not. I sure do love her for that.

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