Security by obscurity is not real.
this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2024
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Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly
Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's. But you know, OSX is definitely "unix".
I would argue macOS owns the creative space (Design, Art and Music)
I would concur. You can record high quality encoded audio on your iPhone, audio design on your iPad with your other samples, and add the mixed soundscape into your film on iMac.
I literally know someone in the media industry who's whole effortless workflow is what makes him a go-to guy for quick and flexible turnaround for audio mastery for films. He works exclusively on apple devices for this exact reason.
I'm not saying it's impossible another way, but he really likes the ecosystem.
I would entirely agree with this, having watch BBC, NatGeo, History Channel, and more media people who love GDrives, only use Macs, filmed deliverables on iPhone, want Mac Pros for editing etc.
At this point I'd call it more of a legacy approach - they definitely still control the space, but the workflow is quite easily accomplished on other systems.
I'd also add many (SO MANY) of the pro audio and video systems out there are also running Linux, so even with sa mac-focused workflow, many of the pros out there are using Linux (often without any clue that they are).
So to me its similar to Windows on the desktop - its not necessarily the best option in all cases, but its often the path of least resistance. As a result, pretty much all of them buy into an Apple ecosystem from the get-go.
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Only partially true. VFX for example uses Linux quite a bit, and a lot of web devs use Linux too, or even Windows with WSL.
But it would be a stretch to say that support is the result of current macOS. The Mac has always been popular with creatives, since way before it was UNIX-based.
I'd argue the popularity with creatives is largely from being marketed to creatives since its earliest days.
For sure the commenter was just asking what space MacOS owns
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surprisingly many computational scientists use MacOS
Yeah, I have some anecdotal evidence to that as well.
Everyone likes to shit on AAPL for being a walled garden, but it's really hard for some to admit that they are pretty good at what they're doing.
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it's very popular with developers due to being a turnkey posix environment. given the choice between mac and windows for development, i would go with mac every time. it's not my personal first choice but it's tolerable.
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what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?
It certainly isn't the enterprise space, ALL their business features and integrations are half-assed at best and downright painful to use at worst (ESPECIALLY iOS device management, fuck what a shit show that is)
I came up with the phrase "Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with (half-assed) enterprise features" to describe it perfectly.
Have you used windows lately? I swear it's become half-assed as an OS. Might still have the enterprise management features, but it's incredibly painful in a mixed enterprise environment that is not standardized office boxes. (e.g. science equipment). I avoid it like the plague if at all possible due to it's now quirky nature.
I'm dating myself, but at least NT didn't crash all the damn time when you access a share on a NetApp or install a new version of the evil Java... Etc.
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Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.
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Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!
Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren't even Unix AFAIK because they didn't bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
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Spit on that thang
Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.
This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.
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Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”
I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.
But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.
Everything is a trade-off.
Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?
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I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.
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I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.
Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.
Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.
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Someone make a virus for his mac
*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*
God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning
Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they're fighting in the comment section >:(
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But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)
I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.
I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.
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Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn't mean it can't be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
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Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.
Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.
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