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    [–] bss03@infosec.pub 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.

    Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.

    Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.

    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.

    [–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

    SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX

    [–] omxxi@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

    It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA

    [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago

    Unironically agree. I want to write my code, not your configs. The fact that saying it causes purists of every ilk to absolutely lose their fucking minds is a fringe benefit.

    [–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 176 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Security by obscurity is not real.

    [–] omxxi@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago

    It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't real?

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    [–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (46 children)

    Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    what exactly does MacOS Own exactly

    Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's. But you know, OSX is definitely "unix".

    [–] WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 155 points 1 week ago (20 children)

    I would argue macOS owns the creative space (Design, Art and Music)

    [–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (19 children)

    I would concur. You can record high quality encoded audio on your iPhone, audio design on your iPad with your other samples, and add the mixed soundscape into your film on iMac.

    I literally know someone in the media industry who's whole effortless workflow is what makes him a go-to guy for quick and flexible turnaround for audio mastery for films. He works exclusively on apple devices for this exact reason.

    I'm not saying it's impossible another way, but he really likes the ecosystem.

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    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Only partially true. VFX for example uses Linux quite a bit, and a lot of web devs use Linux too, or even Windows with WSL.

    [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    But it would be a stretch to say that support is the result of current macOS. The Mac has always been popular with creatives, since way before it was UNIX-based.

    I'd argue the popularity with creatives is largely from being marketed to creatives since its earliest days.

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    [–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    surprisingly many computational scientists use MacOS

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    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.

    [–] omxxi@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

    and on the hands of the NSA

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!

    Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.

    Trollface

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    [–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

    Spit on that thang

    Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 39 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.

    [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.

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    [–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

    Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”

    I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.

    But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.

    Everything is a trade-off.

    Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?

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    [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.

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    [–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

    Someone make a virus for his mac

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