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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We need to stop this usage of proprietary MS GitHub + Discord in free software. It completely undermines the philosophy.

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

The rampant use of Discord in FLOSS project is really disheartening. To join yet another Discord channel to receive any kind of support or discussions around the project, is off-putting.

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Discord is the worst. The siloing of tons of information that should be publicly searchable and accessible via a public forum, but instead it's siloed off into this closed wall with shitty search.

I actually wish Lemmy was better searchable as well. I think Lemmy could be way better and drive adoption if it had a cross instance search engine / indexer.

[–] pigeonholedpoetry@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If your instance is federated well, how does Lemmy not already have the search you’re speaking of?

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm unsure. I use jerboa, maybe it's that. But search doesn't really search the content of posts. I.e. how I can google something, include reddit in the search terms, and find a relevant post(s)

Now. Fuck google, but I want to be able to do the equivalent with Lemmy posts.

[–] pigeonholedpoetry@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kagi has a fediverse lense, but I’d give the Lemmy webUI a try whenever you wanna search something up. It’s not that bad.

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[–] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

You're not alone with your opinion.

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[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What is the deal with getting gpu acceleration into a terminal emulator of all things? Of all the innovations that we could use, faster drawing of text doesn't feel like it should be a priority.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

GPU rendered text interfaces are pretty ubiquitous already. You can find that in IDEs, browsers, apps and GUIs of OSs. Drawing pixels is still a job the GPU excels at. No matter whether it's just text. So I don't see a point why we shouldn't apply that to terminal emulators as well.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

ok but such a sensational announcement like this suggests that before (and without) gpu acceleration the program was noticeably slow for some reason

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 17 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just about speed, but also (battery) efficiency.

Even if you don't notice the speed, if you are working on anything but a modern expensive laptop, you will notice the difference in battery draw between:

VS Code > NeoVim in traditional terminal > Neovim in Alacritty or Ghostty

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Have you ever been in a terminal, or VSCode, and started tailing a super-fast log, and control-C takes forever to stop it while a CPU core goes crazy?

Text rendering isn't efficient, and GPUs help.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

text is like the slowest thing to draw :P when debugging games, a running log can make the 3D rendering stutter significantly.

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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's what I would have said till I tried using a TUI epub reader. The jankiness of line-level scrolling (rather than pixel-level like in a GUI app) is all but a deal breaker.

I was then most surprised to discover that terminal emulators with this amazing cutting-edge technology (smooth scrolling) do not even exist.

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[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

GPU-Accelerated Terminal Emulator

So is Alacritty, Kitty, Wezterm, and even iTerm.

The README's About section[0] sheds no light on what sets Ghostty apart from the competition, while using vague terms and marketing hyperboles.

[0] https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty?tab=readme-ov-file#about

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 weeks ago

From the website linked in the post:

  • Windows, Tabs, and Splits: Manage multiple terminal windows, each with several tabs and splits. Better yet, it is all rendered via native UI elements.
  • GPU-Accelerated Rendering: Employs Metal on macOS and OpenGL on Linux for efficient, high-speed rendering.
  • Hundreds of Themes: Swap between light and dark modes automatically, or choose from a vast library of visually appealing themes.
  • Ligatures and Grapheme Clustering: Shows ligatures flawlessly, handles multi-codepoint emoji properly, and accurately renders Arabic and Hebrew (in left-to-right mode).
  • Kitty Graphics Protocol Support: Let terminal applications display inline images for a richer visual experience.

It also says it's cross platform (macOS and Linux) and has configurable shortcuts with what they believe are sensible defaults.

Although at least Alacritty already has all of these features (very different “sensible” defaults, though) and is also available on Windows so I'm not sold.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I tried it, and it worked well when I worked locally. But I can't use it to SSH into my server, a lot of things just don't work.

[–] undu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

SSHing to machines with bash seems to work fine, but it's a problem with ones that use fish, for some reason

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You can do something like this:

TERM=xterm-256color ssh user@host

You could also install or copy over the term files or something. I can't recall. But it's the same as getting kitty to work which has more information online.

[–] elegantbee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Finally a gpu accelerated Terminal emulator with tabbing.

[–] jim3692 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Magnolia_@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

We are reaching autistic levels never seen before

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pardon my ignorance, is the default terminal that comes with my PopOS also a "terminal emulator" and Ghostty is a replacement for that?

[–] fum@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. But it doesn't have to replace your default terminal emulator. You can have multiple and use any of them.

[–] fxdave@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not against it, but another factor that we should check in a terminal emulator (as a tool where you run everything from) is the system requirements.

I'm using urxvt and that's so easy on the system, it starts instantly. I can open multiple instances without worrying about the system resources.

I believe it uses X.org's text rendering. X.org uses OpenGL under the hood. It's not CPU rendered.

Alacrity felt bulkier when I tried. I will try this too though.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Unless it is trying to actually look cool like "cool retro terminal" or something, I fail to see how the point. I don't recall ever in the history of my terminal use ever thinking "man, this terminal emulator is so slow!" I mean, really... 120fps 4k terminals. Neat I guess?

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

That’s not what GPU acceleration is used for.

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