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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Copying from my comment when you posted this on another community:

The issue is that it’s less severe, partially because people have immunity and partially because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

But wastewater isn’t newsworthy. It never has been. It’s disingenuous to say the media isn’t covering this when ERs are NOT having issues and people aren’t dying.

Many doesn’t the media have mass coverage of the common cold? Why don’t they cover norovirus? Endemic shit that doesn’t kill people isn’t really newsworthy.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's slightly disingenuous in that COVID is still very dangerous. The last time I checked the fatalities, which I believe had been those of the first week of November, there were somewhere around 400 deaths from COVID that week and 13 from the flu in that 7 day period.

I remember reading reports about the strains going around at the beginning of last year (Jan of 2023), and those were actually more dangerous and more infectious than the original strains were. But there were nowhere near the casualty rates because the vaccines work. But not everybody can get vaccinated, and every infection still has about a 20% chance of causing Long COVID despite the vaccine, which can be so crippling that it can put you on permanent disability or cause infertility (COVID is also stored in the balls, along with the pee).

The reason that we see the wastewater reports is because that's the only way that they're legally allowed to report infection rates. The government mandated that the CDC stop recording other rates sometime during the height of the pandemic, around the time that companies started pushing for an end to lockdowns and for grandparents to die for the economy because their grandkids would thank them for it. Also around the time that DeSantis tried to make the person running the COVID tracking website for Florida fake the numbers so that he could say that COVID was over.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Right. Except it does kill people, just like the flu kills people. Large numbers, not nearly as large as several years ago but still large. And the effects of Long COVID look rather bad, too.

So it is newsworthy, by your standards. Meh.

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Also, there's been a January spike every January since 2021. It's practically clockwork. Which also makes it not really newsworthy, especially as the disease becomes less deadly.

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

On the other hand, I saw plenty of news stories about bad travel this holiday. Which is really, really not newsworthy. But we get those every year.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

A virus that kills its host looses a vector to spread. It’s an evolutionary advantage to not kill your host, just leach off them to spread. Look at how well the common cold does.

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I think the government has a good handle on COVID-19 now with more-or-less mass vaccination, so it's not going to cause mass deaths and disabilities.

I'm more worried about H5N1 bird flu, more currently the affect it's having on milk and egg prices (over USD$12/doz. yikes!) and the potential to mutate to direct human-to-human transmission.

From https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22401-bird-flu dated 12/5/2024

What’s the mortality rate of bird flu?

Overall, the mortality (death) rate for bird flu in humans is high — historically, about half of all people with known infections have died. But most recent cases in the U.S. have been mild.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

$12? Maybe at 711 or some shit, but Aldi by me still has eggs under $3

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Depends where you shop and where they source them from. Once that source gets hit and they have to cull their entire flock, you'll see the price increase.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Overall, the mortality (death) rate for bird flu in humans is high — historically, about half of all people with known infections have died. But most recent cases in the U.S. have been mild.

This is a good thing in immunology, actually. Diseases with extremely high severity rates tend to not spread through a population because it incapacitates their host too quickly- Ebola is a classic example. Fucking insane severity, but bad to the point where it hasn't ever spread to epidemic proportions because it's super easy to recognize then isolate. Ebola outbreaks have been (mostly, sans 2014) limited to small geographic areas of small populations.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

This only matters if it incapacitates the host quickly enough that they don't spread it, which isn't necessarily closely related to its deadliness. In the 1980s, AIDS was a death sentence, but that didn't make HIV less transmissible.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Easy way to avoid high egg/dairy prices, drastically or completely eliminate your chance of getting it, and reduce the spread of it overall: just don't eat 'em. Consider making some chili instead.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

There is someone out there right now with a family recipe who is incensed at your implication that you can't put eggs in chili.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think you mean "for now" rather than "now." Less than a month from now will likely be a very different story.

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[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago
[–] solrize@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is from December 19 but has some interesting info that I hadn't seen before. It would be more readable if separated from the class war stuff.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 15 points 1 day ago

“Your corporate media is lying to you because they literally don’t care whether you live or die”

“You right. What’s this about, is it global warming? Trump’s very real plans to literally kill or imprison any American who stands in his way? Health care which reaps a bountiful harvest of corpses every month in the name of profit? PFAS? Microplastic? Good old particulate emissions which are still giving out asthma, COPD, lung cancer, and other forms of disability and early death? The global rise of authoritarianism which they are gradually warming to, more or less explicitly, instead of making even a lukewarm attempt at reporting on honestly? The death of education and the daily misery of every public school teacher, nurse, delivery driver, or anyone else who actually does all the work to keep it all going? Insects dying? Amphibians? Methane? Death of the oceans? TikTok and YouTube and the mental destruction they cause in babies and toddlers too young to resist the harm it causes them?”

“Wastewater Covid is going up.”

“Oh. Well, you’re not even wrong, really. Put it on the pile.”

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because its taboo, and some viewers/readers will scream about it (or at least disengage) just like they do for global warming.

It makes my skin crawl whenever I see our (Florida) weathermen bite their tongues when looking at, say, a graph of ocean heat content, and thats an order of magnitude worse on big, national, corporate media. COVID is no different.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 22 hours ago

Then turn that off and switch to a news source that tells the news

[–] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The 23rd was my first day fever free for my 2nd bout with COVID. It wasn't bad at all this go around and I hadn't had a booster in 18+ months.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, so the initial infection isn't the only (and I would argue the lesser) concern though. It's the 3+ years after that show increased odds of all sorts of chronic conditions like auto-immunity. Then there is the whole brain damage, even from mild cases thing.

[–] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

The brain fog is something that is still affecting me. General confusion especially around time awareness (I logged into a meeting early) and other relatively simple brain tasks such as where's my phone/keys/wallet. These were the most immediately noticeable concerns.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's milder, yes... but it also depends on how much of the virus you get at the time of transmission. Talking with an infected person for a couple minutes is different than being next to a person laughing in a movie theater for two plus hours. The more virus you receive at the time of infection, the more sick/damage it can do before antibodies take over.

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