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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On the other hand... She just got a 'miraculous' birth and three dudes with expensive gifts show up for it... If I were Joseph I would be extremely suspicious

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

She just likes to keep an amicable friendship with all her ex boyfriends, no big deal!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He played his best for him.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

...And it just wasn't good enough.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 69 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I'm a school bus driver, and last year right before Christmas we had a notice put up banning Christmas decorations on the buses. We eventually learned that this was because a couple of parents had complained about the pro-Christianity bias of Christmas decorations, which was strange because nobody had put anything on their buses other than the standard secular red-and-green shit; like, nobody put up Jesus or manger scenes or anything like that. We then learned that the actual complaints had been about drivers encouraging the children to sing religious Christmas songs.

It turned out that the culprit was me, because I had asked the kids if they could sing "The Little Drummer Boy". None of the (60+) kids on the bus had ever heard it so I guess some of them asked their parents about it. Ironically, I'm a fucking atheist - I just like the tune. Fortunately the ban caused a giant shit storm as all the other parents in the district complained about it and it was rescinded. For bonus points, it eventually led to the firing of the district superintendent (who was a shitbag for lots of other reasons).

[–] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Christmas's problem is that it has been too successful. It's no longer a religious holiday. It's a cultural holiday that has permeated every aspect of American culture.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The true meaning of Christmas is: it was a Coca-Cola advertisement.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm tried of this cynical pseudo-history.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Like everything else it touches, capitalism co-opted and ruined it.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine getting your ass handed to you because of the little drummer boy incident lmao

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, it's not how I want to go out.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

It's quite amazing how much drama people can conjure out of nothing.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 13 points 16 hours ago

All is well that ends well

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Drag supports removing Christmas from schools. And drag will buy the story that Christmas is secular when the word "Christ" is removed from the name.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How about Horus-Day, since Christianity simply adopted an extant God's birthday as a strategy to greater assimilation?

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well, it's just Jul, so we could all just go back to calling it Yule. Literally nothing changes and the Christians can still do whatever they want.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, I wish I would get some useless luxury presents every once in a while. Ever since I became an independent adult - and much more so since I became a parent - gifts are mostly practical stuff that I actually want and need and am happy about saving the money on, or gift cards. But then I remember how my Dad used to get me some high end mascara that I hardly even had any use for because it was never waterproof or some way too expensive perfume that I could only wear to school basically, and I miss that a bit.

I mean I love that I got a purrrse this year, but it was also due to the fact that my old one broke and I needed a new one.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Can we trade? Every year I ask for socks, sunscreen, and cash, and I get useless stuff that is so lovely but so useless to me.

I've got a luxury nail care manicure set for Christmas this year that I'll be hauking as soon as my family blink so I can buy some sunscreen for myself for Christmas since I'm out and I need it.

It's a thoughtfully misguided gift - they know I go to get "treatments on my hands" and they keep thinking this is at a spa, so a kit to do it myself at home is a thoughtful gift to help me save money.

Except that I've explained thousands of times "it's medical treatment, at a physiotherapist clinic, for palsies, not relaxation treatment, at a spa, for pleasure"

I can't even really use the manicure set by myself because of the palsy.

For my actual nails I just bite, and occasionally file them... like a normal guy.

I was made redundant this year in November, so I need cash and socks, not a manicure set.

I hate feeling so ungrateful towards gifts. But I really do feel like they've gifted me guilt, when I asked for socks.

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Am I just crazy, or is the mary illustrated here kind of a bitch? The baby isn't going to care if you get it a fucking onesie or a lasagna, because it definitely won't understand anything going on for another year, minimum. If I bring a gift 'for the baby' that the parents will use, isn't that just as good? Maybe gold, incense, and myrrh aren't the best things to put in the crib, but I'm pretty sure it was some 14-year old hands that opened the gift wrap, and those 14 year old hands can sell the expensive gifts if they want to.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Here are some practical gift ideas for the newborn saviour of humanity:

Baby clothes
Crib
Diapers
Teddy bear
Rattle
Babysitting vouchers
Baby bjorn
Tea (for mum)
Mobile
Chocolate (for mum)
The Hobbit hardcover

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how this immaculate conception works, but maybe also baby formula in case Mary wasn't lactating since this was a... mysterious pregnancy.

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 3 points 3 hours ago

If she was able to have the labor portion, I'd assume everything else went according to normal pregnancy standards. So, yes, I guess 14-year old Mary was lactating?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Weird nitpick, and I only know this because it was a bar trivia question that I got wrong once: the Immaculate Conception actually refers to Mary's conception, not Jesus'.

... I know right? Like what?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Oh my non pun intendedly God... I was raised Catholic. I don't think a single person knows it.

I'm just getting church flashbacks to mentions of "virgin Mary, conceived without sin", and never thought of it. But they she wasn't a virgin at the time of Jesus birth?

Edit: OK, I'm reading more about it and think I understand now. So it's 2 different things. Mary was born from sex. Sex is not what the "born without sin" is about, but about humanity inheriting Adam and Eve's original sin. Jesus was born without sex, and Mary was indeed a virgin.

I can't believe no one ever properly explained this part of the story in the 9 years of useless Sunday school.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 62 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

In fairness to the one dude, gold would have been super useful.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Likewise for frankincense and myrrh. Couldn't have smelled great in that stable.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The incredibly expensive luxury perfume ingredients aren't exactly bad gifts either - should be able to convert them into ready cash at any market in the middle east.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 31 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They're all very fungible assets, maybe even more than cash in those times. Except the drummer boy, but a song is probably all that poor kid had to give.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Maybe he transferred the copyright as well and Mary made bank on the streaming royalties.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I know you just gave birth and you're exhausted, and everyone is trying to unwind now, but PATTTATA TATATATAP TAPTAPTATATATATA TATATAT BITCH

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not just that, but EVERYONE is up in her business. Even the angels in heaven. "What chiiiild is thiiis?"

"Hark! The heeerald angeeels siiiing"

"Doooo you seeee what I seeee!?" ;)

Jeeeesus. Give her like five minutes of privacy to pop him out at least.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Didn't even give her a chance to wipe

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

You should not have nodded.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

It was actually pretty awkward when the wise men wanted to stay over. Not very wise. https://youtube.com/shorts/tgXTGrwUblY